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Episode 5 · 1 year ago

The Fab Five Update

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www.friendsandfiction.com The Friends & Fiction authors update each other and the audience about where they are in their writing processes and offer their favorite writing tips and latest reads.

Welcome to friends and fiction by bestselling authors, endless stories. Friends infiction is a podcast withfive best selling novels, whose common love of reading writing and independentbookstores bound them. Together with chess author interviews and fascinatinginsider talk about publishing and writing these friends discussed thebooks, they've written the books they're reading now and the art ofstory telling, if you love books and you're curiousabout the writing. World you're in the right place, bestselling novels Mary K, AndrewsCristen, Harmel Christ, Woodson Harvey Patty Callahan Henry and Mary AlicMonroe, our five long time, friends with more than eighty published booksto their credit at the start of the pandemic, they gottogether for a virtual happy hour to talk about their books, your favoritebookstores, writing, reading and publishing in this new uncharteredterritory. They're still talking and they've added, fascinating discussionswith other best selling novels, so joined tem lie on their friends andfiction, faceful grue page every Wednesday at seven PM, eastern orlisten, and you later at your leisure everybody welcome to friends andfiction. We are five writers and friends whose Comm in love of readingwriting and independent bookstores finds us together. Every week we cometogether to chat with each other and all of you and to support ourindependent bookstores. We're so glad that you're here, I'm Christy wits inHarvey I'm going to your host tonight and my latest novel is feels likefalling. I am Hatti Calaheen Henry and my latestsnovel is becoming msss Lewis. I'm Mary Ellismonroe and my resont brook is onOcean Boulevard. Is it my turn? I'm Hry K, Andrews and I'm perpetuallyconfused. I meanall are yeah my latest novelisinlow summer, I'm Christanermal. My latest is thebook of last names, and this is friends in fiction. As you all know, our mainmission is to support independent book stores, and tonight we are so thrilledto be partnering with one of our favorites Anderson's bookshop. So youcan go on our facebod page and our website. WWW dot, friends in fiction,dot, com and you'll find a central leap to Andersons that has all of our newreleases in one spot, which is Super Superso. I Miss Everyone. So much lastweek I didn't get to meet her. It was so sad. I know Yoll had the best timeat listhat. I was so jealous the whole time and I think he'll talk about this alittle bit last week, but I thought it would be fine, since I missed jet talkabout it again, we have been getting together at anungodly early hour of six forty five, I m WBIT. I know it isn't really early,but in the summer it's a little early right to do. Writing Friends, and so Iknow everyone kind of gets the concept of that that we're all of early andwe're writing sort of at the same time. But what I that would be neat is, Ifeel, like we're all it a little bit of a different process in our books. Anwhat we're working on during those writing. SPRONTS T E, though Itould, bereally cool to tell everyone sort of what we're working on so patty. Do youwant to start us off? So when we first started the sprints, Iwas working on Um finishing up a lot of the backend stuf. For my novel thatcomes out in March, it's called surviving Sadanna, it's anotherhistorical novel. It's based on the real, true story of a shipwreck thathappened with all the elite of Savannah. We'll talk loads, more about it in thecoming months, but I was working a lot on the back end stuff for that. Youknow, th the author, no, the the discussion questions, but then Idecided to do something I've never done before and it has been really fun. Idecided, or I signed up or agreed to write an audible original on Florence,nightingale, so cool. I know, and I had done a load of research on her becauseI'm a nurse and when I was in London when are we ever going to be able to goto London again anybody s noting to snoerbot anyway, I went to her museumand just became really afascinated by her story. So that is what ihave beensprinting with every morning that we've been writing a ATM Marias. How aboutyou? It's been a journey notlike any other, because I usually when I preparefor a novel in in the water with the animals- and it's just sort of isorganic to that. So I am really intrigued by what'sgoing on with our families right now as we go through this Pandemac and I think,there's been a lot of interesting changes and there's been a discussion.If I you want to read about it next yer, so I don't want to write about a cod atMi Tak, but I do wan to I fascinated with what's going on with families. SoI am writing a story and I you know I...

...got to beadmit. I was so draggin myleft foot as many people were going through April and what's going on withlife in general, tig friends in fiction saved me. It really did you know havingus all and getting this going, and I was really getting to the point acouple of weeks just recently where I thought you n T. maybe I should justdump this listening to people say I threw it all away and I started a newbook and I was thinking about it and then just this last week I had thisbreak through and I know what I want to work on it. It is going to be acontinuation of the Bechau series and probably the last one I'll write for alittle while, but I you know, there's a really cool thingabout crabbank, which is a very special spot outside Sham Creek on the harborof Charleston and we've watched it just virtually disappear of t an it was theone of the largest Pelican nesting sites in the United States and Americanoyster catchers and rednuts, and so the problem is that between rising waterand wakes of the big cargo ships going through it's disappearing and how Colisit that there's been a huge effort to rebuild it and to you K W get itconstruct and I'm like. Yes, I found I can bite my teeth in two. I know theparallel. So now I'm excited and I've finished. My Synopsis and reorganized ttoday sent it off. So Girls Buck your seat bells, I type fast too. I'm gone for two thousand wordstomorrow. Ye I'll tell you all this just in caseyell are like they seem tired. Tonight we actually just caped another at thesphon friends and vixen before this, just to have just a case. I eershonhave said that, but I did so it's too Lido, but you onor, writings friend,said I have been in that like really beginning first hundred pages of anovel, and I try to write two thousand a D words today and I'm just like in itI'm excited and just like I'm going, and so they were laughing and I saidwell, I can read two thousand words that fast 'cause I can type really St Chris. What are you working on? We wellyou've. Been Writing Your two thousand words a day. I've been like leafingthrough, I mean like the facts they share with you guys. Every morning youmust be like putalar at you, it's so oen ICASI. So I I'm writinganother World War. Two novel, My last few have been set ind world were toFrance, which I'm very comfortable with, but I had this idea a few months agofor doing something set: h further east in Poland and the forests of Poland andUm. I'm sort of at this point now, where mywriting every day is slowed down a little bit by the need to, for example,research. How do you ice fish in the winter through a frozen pond when youdon't have a fishing poole solike? And you really ca, just google that I meanit's. If anyone knows how to distogle that Hese, let me know it'll help me,but I have all these like survival manuals, and I have a huge guide to theactual forest where this takes place. So that has been helping me hat yesevery morning, while Christie blazes along with her two thousand words andthen right, I'm done with my two thousand. I'm like. I know how to icefish in the winter without a putting pole. That's where I am that's going to come in a lot handierthan my typing skills. If we ever Er Surviv is ID riht want to be with you Crista, Oh, my goodness, I may te what aboutyou Um. I think I'm in the same place asyou Christy. I just Friday, set my editor and agent, the first hundredpages of my novel for next summer and Yeah, and so I'm physically in Atlantalast week I was physically on Tiby Island, I'm physically in Atlanta, butmy my head is in the world of the book, which is in a Momon pop motel on theFlorida Gulf coast, and it's called the murmuring surf. The character is on the run from thelaw, and so I'm trying to figure out well. Do you have to have a credit cardto buy and IPHONE? Do You Hav? How much information do you have to give them?So I I hope law enforcement does not come over here in it. Fwoogle search history, 'cause! It'sit's pretty scary. I bet you would be in a big trouble. If they everinvestigated wic you've been researching Cathy. I was researching the other dayhow to kill a man with your bare hand, so they might come to my door sa my research and Crab Bang trittles, I'mOky, I'm researching how they proposed SINCseventeen and forty two or some. I want...

...to know that very antraiclloud hell youwant to find out. Wellthis is just a little reminder.EVERYONE WHO's watching! That Anderson's bookshop is our booksellerof the wheat, and I also want o termind everyone that we are going to beanswering their questions live in just a few minutes. So if you have aquestion for us, please get it in because we would love to answer it andI thought t would be kind of fun if we had an episode tonight since it's justus, we don't have a special GESK. If we answer questions are a little bit morepersonal than we normally do a little less about writing a little more aboutus, and so a ton of you guys submitted your questions into the facebygert thisweek. It was amazing to see all of your incredible questions. I wish we couldhave answered them all, but I picked just a few and the first one is fromthe bet, O say Jack. I'm sorry, I know I'm saying that wrong, but that, but Iapologize, but she said that she missed the first three or four Wednesday nightmeetings and she he wanted to know just a little bit more about us. She wasn'tsurely who's married, who has children O we have Om mets, and so I just thoug.You know when we started this. We had a few hundred members and now er overnine thousand o. There might be some of it. Some people out there who reallydon't know that much about us and it might be kind of fine to just give thema little bit of background. So Christian, do you want to start withthat? One E, just a little bit about me. Its Lik yeah she's, wanted to knowwho's married. He ast childrern, and if you have pets, I do not have at anypats right. Now I have a four year old, a ear old son. I shouldn't Av, alas, the same l without a lie. I seed him at thetable Oothin in a bowl on the floor. It's all good noi. I have a a four yearold son and a husband h named Jason, and I live in Orlando Florida, whereapparently, the corona virus appears to be on the ries everywhere here. Sothat's not good, but Um yeah. That's me, awesome, Um, Ma Tel. What about you? Iam Mary to my high school sweetheart forty three years. I I sometimes referto him, as my starter, husband within ha changed that to finishhusband after Fort Hun years he's my practice husband. We have two grownkids and two grandchildren who live right around the corner and threeunruly English setters Ali, but about you I was married veryyoung too. I was a thunderbolt kind of a situation. What can you do and we'vebeen married? Forty, I won't say LNOT and if my husband sits e kintrisa childsocotes, so he's actuay very handy when I comes to creating my charactersketches if there's ever something I need to know about just you know whohas a personality to sort her or something he can help me out, iave tobeautiful kids and two girls and a boy and they're all well all supposed to bemarried. One wedding was cancelled this summer, so we have our fingers crossedand that will happen soon and I have can you believe it's six gorgeousgrandchildren and like mergay, three dogs and Canaries, and I would havemany more if my husband didn't threaten to leave me if I had any more Harken is not on anywhere. No, I don'tthink Soo woul curdle and put it in the middle of the Living Rooman Crodlin groubl after he made Er. He made me Dihe Daes. I think he'sMa dinner for almost everyone here you all have to come and Tet Han make hispizza for you right. I in I am Patty and my husband's name is patand that's not why I' married him tat we'rk at Matti, and we have threeKids Megan is twenty seven and then I have a twenty five year old son namedChomas and a twenty two year old son named Rusk and I'm a grandmother. Meganis married to Evan and they have a little beautiful baby girl that Ihaven't seen in almost seven months because of cobed I mean I see her everyday in the bone, but I don't get to see I'Ven' seen them in person, because,right now they live in Hawaiti, so yeah. I live in Bermium, Alabama and sand, William, you have Winnie, Oh, howcan I forget Winnie, you have a springer Spaniel, NAE Winni who'sliterally, and everybody can argue about their cute dogs. Whatever he is. The bestyeahyours is the Tru soM. I am Christi and I and like Mary Alice, I was very young when I gotmarried and I have been married for...

...twelve years to my husband. Well thatright I mis ther. I know you, you forget the Numberis welisthirteen andwe have a son at will whos eight and I named them the same thing because I wasso tired of coming up with character names, but I just now bhut everyone gave me such a heartp.They were like well, don't call hit, I mean you can name Him William, but callit something else. Don't call him will and I was like ihave always wanted togrow up and have a litle Wa an will and I'm sorry if everyone is so offendedthat my son and usmen are going to have the same name. But here we are, I meanTad and paddy have made it work for Allsso, but Oy. Well, I say: Will Onewill to I mean osuly have become big well, a littlewell. IUEVERYONE calls the big well and little will, and I think I mean mycousin. I have a cousin Raymond and an uncle Raymond and my cousin Raymond isyou know thirty, seven and six three and he's still little Raymond, so it just unfortunately, is what it is.But it's just one of my favorite names says: Okay, I do not have any petsright now. I wish more than anything that Youhad gotten a puppy at thebeginning of the whole quarantine situation. ECAUSE, I would have beenlike the best time to you know, train it in all these things, but we didn'tsad, but we probably ain't Christy. You lost your chance. I had some goodlitters. I Wa ther, all winners Neco, a I done im on done breeding, so my Iretired my bitch. That's what I'm waiting for Marcus tosay, owanohenesee wanted to know as authors.How do you or did you find time to do or be your other personas mothers,wives, Hamekeepers et Cetera, and give yourself self care? Because you alllook like you have your stuff together, she didn't say stuff, but I'm not gin. Wutd thesoo thing answering Wel an hear,meare e. do you want to start us off with that one? I have no idea how anyof them I don't do it very well. I tend to be LOP, sided I'll, be all writingand ignore family and house and all kinds of light, and then I rush tocatch up and I don't write lately. You know, we've talked about we've beendoing these writing sprints in the morning and that's really been a lifesaver, but I've sort of go from panic to come, and I guess that's always howI've done it and I will say my husband is great. He pitches in on everythinghe always has so I'm lucky in that regard and Maiask. What about you? OhGosh. I'm I'm also really lucky my husband, although for the first severalyears while his career was all encompassing, I pretty much wit, theJapanese theres, the word Odnasama, which is o great master, which is whathe was he he reigned. Every every decition he made was what we did 'cause.He was the brokwinner, but it's nice to see a reversal of roles now that he'sretired and I'm not a breadwinner for him, but he's there to support me theWy. I did him all those years, so I I work really hard. As far as how do I lagood geanes, what Cald I say- good genes, thanks, mamma and and good make up Te, don't undress tomake the value of good make up. We clean up and like like Mrkay I, when I'm on a writing, mogage, I'mgetting into now I'll, go for days without really attensive personalhygiene and without getting dressed, and he does all the cooking andshopping, and this has always been the way when I have to write really hardreally fast and Y. It's not good for your health, though how we maintainthis. I don't know because I abused this body with this career. I really doand it's just very intense all night sometimes, and then I stop an blown out,littally blown out and usually we're all traveling. I mean we're not rigtingout toor. Now, usually we're all you know its sort of having that part ofour lives too. So what about you? Christan? You have the youngest childso well. First of all, the BANGS hide the wrinkles, so I don't really have ittogether. I'm just I just disguise everything. Well, plus, you notice hemsitting far away and it's you know you can't see whatever ill the toll of thewriting and the hours of my face. Um, I think a little bit in when I startedwriting. Ot was just be. I didn't get married two thousand and fourteen. Ididn't had my son until two thousand and sixty so getting married in twothousand and fourteen changed. My...

...writing life. In that I had asupportive partner, which you know I hade kind of just gone it alone for along time, like sitting in my own Pondo, all by myself. You know expecting withother writers, douncing ideas off of friends, but there is really somethingto having a supportive partner. As you all sounds like learnd before I did sothat's been wonderful, but I really did go through an identity crisis after Ihad my son in two thousand and sixteen because I was used to being you know,I'm Christen, first and foremost, a writer like that's what I had beendoing for years and then suddenly it was. I had to be Christian first andforemost amom, which is you know. I I think, the mostimportant aleasted in my life, so that was kind of a recalibrating of figuringout who I am who I want to be and how to balance my time, I still haven'ttotally figured it out. You know what I think, I'm a work in progress. I thinkwe probably all are. I don't probably put enough of myself into any of theareas of my life but turely these writing sprints, we've been doing inthe morning. I know we keep bringing that up. It's made a world ofdifference for me because I can dedicate myself to that in the morningwhen that's just my writing time and then the rest of the day. I can be tome that everybody else needs me to be so that's the best balance ie found sofar MMOW. What Otyou? First of all to answer? How do we have our stufftogether? We don't, and I think I think it's a disservice to women, to pretendthat we do we're grazzeled and we're doing thebest. We can we're running to the camera at the lastminute and we're all wear ing yoga, pants, yeah e, a delicate heand. Onlythe front of my hair is brushng out the back. I tthis this balance, Uston Somtingiztrugbled with a Lo in the beginning, and it's something I realized that thebalance has to come in overall, not inadaoday. eover days like we talkedabout where I I can't write all night, I've never been able to do that. Idon't blot myself out that way, but there are days that you know thewriting and the work there weeks when the writing and the work takesprecedent, whether you're on book, tour or late on deadline and then there's aswap of time where you know the families together and things aretogether. But when I firstarted writing in the very beginning ice grote fromfour thirty to six thirty in the morning for years I had a one year old,a four year old and a six year old, and so that is how I got my writing done,and that is where I learned to block off enough time that this one thingthat means this much to me, I'm not going to give it up, but if I have toput it in a pocket, I will now, of course, as the kids get older and theyleave. They don't have to pocket it so much, but I I think the balance inmaking it look like we have it together when we don't it this service, becausethe Gra thing is real balance. It's you know. I Gi agree wholeheartedly and Ithink what m when I was listening to you, it made me realize that in fact,there are two phases to careers as well. You know, there's the young children athome phase where you've got to turn off the computer, and you create that time.That is a blutter fire, its not go away, but then a an for years. You do, butyou can and you're constantly running. That's why young mothers tend to be sothin, they're, constanty working, but it's nice, I'm at an age now, where Idon't have anybody to take care of, so you can be a bit self indulgent andit's just another face the bottom line. Is it never is easy and you just haveto find a way to make it work for you and I think, Mary T, I think everyoneis sort of fit on this. His is why we found each other. This is so Stran. Ihave always said my life is a series of bengance like I'm writing or I'mediting or then it's like Omanagh. I have to do every single client contractfor design sheet in the next four days, because I haven't done it in six monthsor like I'e got towor for six weeks. I mean we all, I'm speaking for all of us.You know- and I do think it it's like that- it's like sometimes unusuallysummer for me, is slower because wills home and I try to like justbe with him,but because you know they haven't been in school. Since you know March I meanit's, I think the summer's going to look a little bit different becauseit's not like I'm like okay. Well, I I've been full time Mama since March,I've got to Li, get my writing Downe and get my next bux. So everything hasbeen a little bit different, but I also have an incredibly amazingly supportivehusband, which I kind of think you have to have, especially on the you know,being gone a lot, and you know having this other part of your life where youow. They have to take on a ton of responsibility and I think that'sreally a guest, because not everyone has that. I don't think- and I havegreat parents too, who I meade my first book to our late will was three and Ididn't want to leave him, so they packed up and well and mom and dad- andI went on the road for a month and big will metuce on the Weekendctae I AinNason parent, but its amaing. I don't...

...know a could say I could say I'd dothat for it's pretty amazing, that's pretty Mac.Would your parents mind coming on my next book TORE WITH CE? It's a gooddeal, realy reit little boys like they know, terlike relo would just likeslide. RIHT or maybe Yo could go on like a joint booktour and they guythink. We really should I de to Begle our books to come out. Wih yeahand. UTaken T of a Dayon, I like it, I do it I'll grab her oun a bus. Now you knowwhat the dame fan s San. I really want to do that now, theincited okay. So we have so many questions coming in from readers, butthis is actually just so on the heels of what we were just talking about andsort of guys with or more personal question themes. Tonight, SammyMeredith wants to know like how and where we met our spouses. Oh Okay, MaMary Alice D. You want to take that one sorry, I just tink of some of yourwifes. Like sorry it I've got a date. My it was a fond DUparty, Lov Fond I had just even though I was onlynineteen. I had just broken up with someone. He was getting too serious andI didn't want to go to a party and my brother was visiting and he wanted tomeet girls. I was working at the Encycloputi Betaprica and somebody youknow mutual friend it was freezing cold February night in Chicago I, the kindyou go outside n, your nostrolairs freeze. We went to this Fondu party and Iwalked in and there's all these kind of suit types over there and I sawstanding against the wall. Thi Guy looked exactly like young Johnny dupp.Only his hair was about as long as Earas Christie, gorgeous black and and Eker a Maroon velvet chatthemway and I Hoeno a Yo love. It first sight. I looked at him and I and weboth looked at each other and it was truly Oh, no, I'm not ready for this.It was a true thunderbolt and we were married in six months. That's amazingwow yeayeah. He was meant to be, but you know the hardestthing about getting older. Is he lost all that gorgeous hair? I'm sure we've lost some things too. No fothe answer is whatshod Ye, I'm at Pat in college, but wedidn't date in college and it's weird as I don't actually and I don't thinkhe does either remembers like the moment we met there was we just hadmutual friends and would be at the same parties in the same gatherings and kneweach other new knew each other's names, and then we moved to Atlanta and hewent to graduate school at Emery and I was working at Egiston Children'shospital which is emery's Children's hospital. So we were both in Atlantaand we both knew each other and had mutual friends. So we all startedhanging out and I told him to face. It were only goingto be friends so well. It was already five years andthree children and one grandchild agot were still AAT's awesome. He got e lastlaugh, Mary came what about you. We were high school sweethors, but weweren't. We were friends first and I remember we had the same typing classand I sat in front of him in typing class and I used to Flort with themjust to embarrass Hem, because he didn't date a lot. He was studious. Hewas a Jock, and so my favorite thing to do to him was take my toe and pull downhis sock. OMANGIC I'll have to remember that evenjust turned meat red and tell me to cut it out youdill do that o have to do it tonight, Ti ar membershe's retired he's not wearing socks, he's barely on Sant Yoa high school graduatsn. We were justfriends high school graduation weekend. Everybody else was doing something andUm. He was over at my house and we said well, let's go to the drive in movie'cause. That was a big thing in high school, and so we took my mom's stationwagon we'd popped, a bag of popcorn and think we took a leader bottle of cokein my mom's car, and I I think I paid my own way and Um we were seeing. We were watching JohnWay and the cowboys that's how long ago it was, and at some point he leanedover and kissed me an the rest of History Wno, so I've known Jason for a longtime. One of my first friends in...

Orlando was a girl named Wendy, and oneof my good college friends was a guy named Chad and they both worked withJason and both of them. I think it was my two thousand eight book, theArtifinch Kisig, not not a real houo guide. They both individually, werecoming to my book Release Party in Orlando and they both individually saidto Jason. Oh, you should come to this bokerlease party and he was like who isthis person? Everyone keeps Mash Toma, so he came and we get along great. Imean it was one of those. There was definitely chemistry from the beginning,but I think he was just getting out of a long relationship or was in the midstof something complicated. I may or may not have been dating someone, so weknew each other for years, but the timing was always off. He was alwayswith somebody or I was always with somebody. We always were greatestfriends we get along. It was never really a thought, though Mary case justoutraged by my answer. She's like nno Chris and I think, Youre Fr. I thinkyou need to think a minute. The book you wrote was the art of French cissing. TWAHER, okay might have been way. Hecame and he's still trying to figure out. When do I get to learn that Idon't knowll, no itempting for anyone? I should think so. We met Mer friends for years andthen he was finally getting out of a really long term relationship and hesaid to Chaldan Wendy Whet. Do you think about me asking cristen out, andthey both said? Not right away, she can't be o r rebound, we feel like thiscould be it, and so I think they gave him like a sixty day. I remember it wassix, they told him sixty days and he said. Okay, I'm going to respect thatsixty days, and I think it was like day fifty seven he asked me Ooyeah, sowe've been, I knew from the very first time, the very first time he reachedfor my hand under the table. I was like this is the guy I, its me chills. Loimy story isactually like weirdly, similar tomarialysis, except with outhe JohnnyDepairer, and the Bernanpat Mari fantersit was different. I had ahuge exam the next day and I was like absolutely not going out and it was oneof my friend's twenty first birthdays. It was a Wednesday night which, inChapel Hill thereas, no one out on Wednesday night and my friends keptcalling me and they were like what. If it is your twenty first birthday, youwould want everyone to come out for you, basically just guilting me and to goingout- and I was just so irritated and il barely even got ready. I did not evenlook you and we were all at this restaurant and it was completely emptyand we were like sitting around a big table and the sgroup of guys camewalking in and I looked at well and he looked at me and I was like, and Iturned around Tin, my friends Weron the table and I was like I'm going to marryhim no way. There was SOM other arms member. The moment wow it wasn't likeit was. It was just very clear, but I always knew from the time I was like atiny child. You know, people woudiewlhow, do you know. Anyfallinlover. Hondy me on is the right person and I would always like. I always knewthat I would see the person I was Monto marry and I would know it and it waslike the weirdest thing because it happened and I was like. Oh there yolike it was like very calm, and one of my friends was like well, who was heand I was like? Oh, I don't know Suri well, I want to methen if you're going to getmarried and they make so much fun of me and then you know here. You are that'samazing, I believe in the thunderbolt. I thinkit doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, I absolutely believeit or a thunder kiss from Mary Kay Theeyeunder TEP Tunder Stock Pole Thatsso cut th because, like you canjust imagine like that Boytin so Embarrassedi John Rinkiss O. I nave areally short answer to this question. I'm Jane's sister wants to know whatmusical talent we each have and none. So I'm at nextnone not liking goodmusic. That is my musical town, Eon. Kristen. I played the drums in highschool, so I was a drummer. I I'm I'm not going to say I was talented but CHKI well. I I was eating at or a Bandork 'cause I' MIS too e jonclayer myschicaexactly. I did once play a big drum solo in my high school emissnortheasthigh school pageant, so just syou know. I came in seconds so clearly bydrumming took me to the top. I always love music and in my famy father wasn'treally and I'm not just saying a concert level Phim, as he really was.So I played the piano very well when I'm fet. Since I can remember, I paidthe piano and in high school, I played the French Horn in the orchestra andthen afterwards, when I was studying, Japanese there's that beautiful Oco,which is that long, Japanese, six foot instument on the floor, you have to sitwith your leg, your lings, while assleep, while you're playing Nmymin. Iplayed that and now I'm sort of excited...

...'cause. I don't have up here anyinstruments, so I bought the Dulsimer because when I was in Patty Henry wewere up in. Where was that Um noon, big canoe and all those people have thosedolsommers, and I played a couple and all these years I've been wanting toplay it. So I bought one and I'm going to teach myself te delsimmer. So I lovemusical instruments or the AWSOM. What about AU maryday? I have zero musicalatonment, but if I do have a talent at all, it is remembering the words to alot of Broadway showtune Y to Broadway home. Just me, songs in general, like justsongs in general and et, will be things and I'm like. I remember that from youknow, nineteen ninety one every word and I'm like my why? But I can'tremember like my next door: neighbors yeshead everything else is going, butthe name but the words of Swrdi'm getting us off schedule. But I have toask this one more question: an Wi'll answer really quickly, but I think it'sso funny that we cannot answer it so shelly McDonald many wants to know. Doyour kids or families think you are famous or just women with normal jobs.Even though Youl are best selling authors, and we all regard you as ourfamous friends, omy grandkids, think I'm famous only because they take booksto school for their teachers to kind of Nou. So that's what my grandkids tothem, I'm semi famous, because they can givebooks o their teachers and- and they get brounding points that same here, my kids, especiallywhen they were in high school. They would always take my Spanish copies totheir Spanish teacur Josgo. Think Ou got them exra credit and then take mybooks to their English teacher. But I don't think any of them have everconsidered me, and I mean they care more. Their baseball pants were cleanthan IFONO. I don't. I think the first time, especially Thomas Ever saw megive a speech like a big talk. I think T it was. It was in Charleston. It wasa couple of years ago. I think he he had a little bit of a takeback momentlike well, wait a minute. It coges my mom and Heryoga clothes ofthe ponty talent up of herhead typing til, the way out like Ita. So No, Idon't think they except like Merycase at you, know, give their teachers'books and try and get some extra credit. I remember with most ith my kids too.They didn't really care or get any indication that I had they knew. I wasa writer and that's about it, but it wasn't until all these years later,theywere all out of the house, but everyone flew into Vewford SouthCarolina, but I was ibjected into the hall of fame and they saw that and I saw them with tears in their eyes and as a mother at this point in mylife it really that was a moment. I mean it was the first time theyactually thought wow. Maybe she something more than just mop and it Was. It was a moment- and I remember my grandson- was in the bookstore. He tooka picture 'cause, they sent it to me. He saw my book in a Bookstore and I think a light went off and he'sthinking, m, Jaka, Raouling and he's going so mumble. How rich are you I jus say AH honey. I Ain J K Raulei. Isorry diappoint you, but he ats what he thought. Authors are, and I think a lotof people think that too yeah. You know you must be rich, 'cause you're anauthor, but of course we know that's not true. I have Ambrich, I don't know whatyou're DOUB S saing. I was a target about a year ago, maybea year and a half ago when the Rumaruamali was their book club picker,the Mun and my face was on was being an interview in that big Spain in the back,which is just as you know, Mericaa you saw yours recently, it's just such acool thrilling thing and I was with my son Noah and he looked up at the screenand I was like no e look. It's Mommy, I was so thrilled and he was like yeah.Can I get a popetrol toy so like just caught me right down to size and Um onon my husband's side of the family, we have an NHL hockey player Ho plays forthe New York Rangers, he's my husband's cousin, and so, if there's ever anydoubt as to like where I follow a family, it's definitely like manylevels. Beneath the nage O player 'cause, there's there's now Jersey thatthe's Cristan Harmel in the BATK. It make you a jersey, I will take itCai. Please have one what nober you wantto be one late number one numberone: okay, as we discussed recently my hip hop name is Christian twelve, so hecould just Brit well on the back yea. So much smarter. I forgot about thatyou're. Absolutely right. I think my...

...husband and my dad Bot have a very likeoverinslated sense of date of my fame. Like Dear Carolina came out and therewere like eleven copies in the world and they were like telling everyone, and my son is likewha. I mean she's Oky, but ye wh n. When we take the books to school andhis teachers are like. Can I get a copy of your Momsex but like e, the keepingthat's really cool but I'll? Never forget him being like Hos, probably nowhis heshew's, probably like four and I was in a magazine. I don't evenremember what it was, but people would just come up to me and say: Oh my GoshHus saw you that situate an article or whatever, and our Bovet magazine herewhere I live, had just done a feature on little will and he was like thecover of the magazine when he was in a tree and so every time someone come ongto me and be like. Oh, that was such a great article. He would be like whell.I was on the cover of a magazine, Corse, but Ilik comes and goes like He.If he goes and hears me speak or something I think he'll be like wow.Like thes people came to Seeyou, you know, but it's so funny, Thau H, butyeah. I think spamos is a big word, but but definitely like a different. Youknow it is different than when we were ourselves at home and not puttingourselves out in public Youoto. No honesty, I don't think authors arefamous like a TV star or a movie star. I mean they don't see our face en forthe most part. No, I don't feel famous. I just I I was a movie star, maybe butnot yeah, but it's like the perfect combination. I think, because you cango to these places and have people like say Nice, things about you and yourbook every now and then someone ill like come up to you somewhere randomlyyou know, but you're not like you can like leave your houseyou knowmenunfortunately when they see me and target they're kind of like t, let'sface tit, we don't always put the make up on when we go to target, but I lovethat Question Star Much and I thought Yi would get a kick a great question.Okay, so we always take time at the Etofer episodes to give a writing tipand SA tonight. Mary Alice is your turn. Could you please give us a quickwriting sep? This is going to be really short. I I think it's really important.Driving forse of any Charactergi te novel is how you flesh on charactersand I've. A couple F, really quick, poanters that I think help me and oneas you've really got to know. Tho Back History, just don't say I'm going towrite the book and it I'll figure out who these people are. These are CA.Caracters, on more than people have a job to do to carry out the novel theyhave to be fully fleshd out. So you need to know their back story. Do theyhave a trauma where the? What was their umchildhood like? Where did they go toschool? Ok, know them. What is their psychology Um body movements? Every person youknow has a way by the holding themselves, or some people citch theirnose a lot or sometimes a little chick can make a big diffeance nsometimes a little tick or someone whogets nervous scratches their head, something that is e, defining movementabout a person or a nervous laugh. I love even the way they talk. If I Inervhos time, if they do it consistently, that adds to thecharacter. Also, you really got to see them, andone trip that I am. Is I like to create a movie star or an actor someone I cansee that is in Amalgum of what I'm like a care of was Andy McDowell back when Iwrote her and I look at the movies, because actors have distinct movements,and so you can look at how they move to give your fresh idea that acyourcharacter, not like someone you've written at nauseum before and the lastthing is- is names names can add a lot. My name is Inigomao Monjoa you can ofmy father prepared to die. I mean what a great name so sometimes choosing theright name for a Chracter ATTICAS. That name will go down always as the greatfather, and so those are little tips that I have to give you to make. Yourealize flesh out your characters, know who they are know if they go to Walmart.What are they going to put in the cart? That's wonderful! Thank you, Mary Aliceand, as you know, we always like to give some recommendations of what we'rereading and what we're loving. Lately and Christian. I think you had a coupleof things you wanted to tell us about that. You've really enjoyed. You know Iwanted to mention too 'cause. There are at different ends of the spectrum, soafter the end, this is actually the British version of it. After the end byClair McIntosh and headover heels. I know my lights kind of shining on it byHanna Orane Den I'll put these up on the friends ane fiction pages, so youcan see them better than I'm showing them now, but one of them after the endis by a celebrated British crime writer. But it's actually an emotional familydrama. The other headover heels is a...

...romantic comedy that takes place in theworld of gymnastics, so they're both uplifting, ultimately in different ways.So if you need a good cry, I would read after the end and if you need a goodlaugh, I would read head over heels and again I'll link to both on the FASEBOCKpagion. There wo go. Does so many else have one Mariel I do I do it's a middlegrade book which is for Grades Ages, Ght to twelve, and I have I'm writingwater, and so I particularly reading these a lot, but this is braver. AWAMBAT's, Tal and Spiuzanne Celforse who's a really well known Middle Grat,author and she wrote it with the first time author Walker, Ranza, Ronson hop.I get the pronunciation, Rin she's an award winning author and has a lot ofbooks, but this one is a fantasy adventure sort of like redwall, andit's really really wonderful and I think for young kids. They really loveit and the other one that I want to recommend is another middle grade bookcalled the one in only Bob by Catherine appligate and as she rotethe one in only Ivan which I swear, you need tissues. When you read it's themost brilliant middle grade book, I have ever read from the point of viewof of a a gorilla in a show, a cheap show and it's beautiful andbobis. It'sasenquate to that Bob as a character in that book, so Middle Grade Books. Ithink ofagulous and parents read them, because you know what your kids areeading and you get a senseafter. You can talk to him about it. Can I just add. I also wanted tomention that the B, the first Middle Grade Book that Mary Alice mentioned,I'm so happy that she mentioned it, because the writer is actually theowner of liberty, Bay books, which was the Bookstore Christan Hanna chos onJune. Third, when she was here with us, and so the author is not only an authorof Middle Grate Novels Bhut, she also owns a bookstore and she didn't buythat bookstore until a month before the PENDAMMAC, so she's really kindo outthere in the trenches. You know fighting the good fight and supportingthat book I think, would be also supporting her Bookstore LibertyBayboks. It sounds wonderful, it really does yeah anybody else have whenthey're dying to share I'm reading. I just finished SUS'm Elizabeth PhillipsNew Book called Dance Away with Rit too. It's so good it. She writes the bestsix scenes, no yeah and, of course, I'm reallyexcited B'cause she's, going to be with us with Jane nd Crantz, on our surprise,bonus episode this Sunday Wa. I so glad you mention that yes ha everyone makessure sto join us here on the friends in fiction, Page Hady, anything you wantto add before we sign off, and so I'm reading this book a lot. It's calledJambarry Rr dater on face time, Butyeah and its cuge chiography about this bigon Florence Nightgale, but I know I'mtre reading the biography of PattiHenry, oh o about this tiy thiscau o my life. I wrote it when I was twelve, youcan publish it when I'm gone, but she an has all my deepest philosophies oflife in it and how I feel about tings. It don't work underlining most of Ohyes, noitorried about Sunday. I I can't waitto talk to Susan Ajan. I love that we've decided to do somebonus episodes in that we have one on Sunday, so just- and I think we'll bedoing them here and there just as surprises- and this just happens to bean enormous surprise. 'cause. It's two huge authors who were fan of- and youknow for those Youwho- have trouble making o Wednesday night, maybe Sundayat five o'clock. EASTERND might be an easier time. Well, thank you, lady. Somuch I had so much fun tonight. This was so great and thank you to all ofour readers for joining us tonight is always you can find us all week, longon our friends in fiction, baseboot PAG, which is spacebok, dotcom, backslashgroups, fact Flash Friends anfiction and will do Gourbah to answer yourcomments and questions and then we're alive here Wednesday nights at seven PMwill have a special bonus episode Sunday at Bive, and you can find any ofour old episodes of friends in fiction docom. One More Reminder: Anderson'sbook shop is our featured Bookstore of the week and you can get all of ourbooks and from one conveniently. That will be an all of our places, so thankyou so much everybody and Deniht gloryeating you've been listening tothe friends and diction poncast, be sure to subscribe to the friends andfiction codcast wherever you listen and if you're enjoying it leav a review.You can find the friends and fiction authors at www, dot, friends andsiction. Dot Come as well as on the facebook group. Page friends andfiction come back soon. Oka. There are still lots of books, writing tips,interviews, publishing news and...

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