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Episode 8 · 1 year ago

The Fab Five - A Change of Plans

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www.friendsandfiction.com The Friends & Fiction authors discuss how Coronavirus shifted their 4th of July plans, their first concerts, favorite writing tips and what they're reading and loving lately.

Welcome to friends and fiction by bestselling authors, andless stories. Friends infiction is a podtast withfive best selling novels, whose common love of reading writing and independentbookstores bound them. Together with chess author interviews and fascinatinginsider talk about publishing and writing these friends discussed thebooks, they've written the books they're reading now and the art ofstorytelling. If you love books and you're curiousabout the writing, world you're in the right place: bestselling novels, Maryt, Amens,Cristen, Harmel Christ, Woodson Harvey Patty Callahan Henry and MaryAlismanroe, our five long time. Friends with more than eighty published booksto their creditat, the start of the pandemic, they got together for avirtual happy hour to talk about the books, your favorite bookstores,writing, reeding and publishing in this new unchartered territory. They'restill talking and they' added, fascinating discussions with otherbestselling novels, so joined tem lie on their friends and fiction, pacefulGoo page every Wednesday at seven PM, eastern or listen, and you later atyour leisure, well, Hie everybody. We hope he had afun and or peaceful fourth of July, and you know we're friends in fiction. Weare five writers and friends whose common love of reading writing andindependent bookstores binds us together every weet we come together to chatwith each other and you all to sport independent booksellers, and we are soglad you are here so course. I'm Mary K, Andrews, I'm your host tonight and mylatest novel is Hello Summer. I'm Cristenharmel and my latest novel isthe Book of lost names out in less than two weeks, I'm Christy Wintson Harvey and mylatest novel Ist fiels like falling and Um Patic, alihe and Henry and my latestis becoming MSSS Liwlis, I'm Maryalismror, my ladest novel is onOcean Boulevard, and this is friends in fiction, as I mention earlier. Animportant part of our reason for being is to support independent bookstores,who, like so many other small businesses around the country, havebeen adversely impacted by the pendemic tonight. We'd like to tell you a littlebit about our bookseller and that's book shop, Dot, Org, bookshop dot. Orgis an online bookstore with a mission to financially support localindependent bookstores and their mission says that we believe thatbookstores are essential to a healthy culture there, where authors canconnect with readers, where we discover new writers, where children get hookedon the thrill of reading that can last a lifetime thees more and more peoplebuy their books online bookshop dotword wanted to create an easy, convenientway for readers like you to get your books and support independentbookstores. At the same time, if you want US find a specific local bookstoreto support, you can do that at bookshop. Dot, Worg and they'll receive the fullprofit of your order. Otherwise your order will contribute to an earningspool that will be evenly distributed among independent bookstores andBOOKSHOPPD OT worg says they also support anyone who advocates for booksthrough their affiliate program, which pays a ten percent commission on everysale and gives a matching ten percent to endy bookstores. Now, all of the FNF-that's friends and fiction all those books and any other books we mentionedtonight on the program- can be ordered through the length that you will findon the friends and fiction website that was mouthful in o show expline. I don't know the rest of you,but you had a very quiet fourth of July weekend here, you know. Normally oursmall town has a funky little parade, we're neighbors gathere for a viewingparty with ham and biscuits and a...

...bloody Mary Cart, followed by PicnicSummers around our leg in a fireworks display. So, but you know this year thepandemit rained on our parade so inst. We we puttered around the house. Iwrote we had some socially distanced barbecue on our back porch with anothercouple, and since we can't go to our neighborhood pool this year, except byreservation on Sunday, we sat in a leaky inflatable kitty, Foyono Goen. Wehad ribs. What did you all? Do we actually went sailing, which wasreally fun? We went with Um just like one other family and it was abig boat, so we weren't on top of each other or anything. But we went out into Cape lookout, which is like an island here, and it had this beautifullighthouse and the water. It looked like the Caribbean, it was anabsolutely beautiful day and the we they did have our fireworks. We did n'thave any parades, but there were lots of fireworks and ut. I love fireworkslike Iam, just int her for firewords, so I was probably more excited than thechildren to Watsh the firewords. That's what I miss the most is the fireworksthey cancelled, all the fireworks in Alabam and Sellivans, and so for thebeaches. They didn't want the crowd, so my children and friends were all of thehouse, so marcus and I high tailed it up to the mountains and it was reallyciming. It's kind of sad. This is like a religious holiday for my husband. Heis actually a member of the pyrotechnic guilt of America. Oe O an a little bitof a nerv that way and O to this fireworks is like missing church foryou. We went up and you know what we did,which made it really special. Is We watched, Hamilton and t was the firsttime I'd seen it, and I understand what everyone was so excited about him. It'sOlt quite patriotic to watch it on tefourth of July. Now, cristen did youget to the Disney world? After all or no, you know Disney world still isn'topen, and it's funny. You say that because that's our fourth of Julytradition every year, actually on July, third 'cause they do there July. FourthFireworks July. Third and fourth, IT'S TRADITION: I've HAP with my mom forprobably twenty years now, so we felt really sad. We didn't get to see her onJuly. Third, I haven't seen my mom since March and tomissthose fireworkswith her really hurt, but we did the same thing: Mary Lls, W WSH Chamilton,so o good was that Eken a little but man II um. I I missed the fireworks and I really missed my mom yeahgoddy. Whatdid you do so? We muchd Hamiledhim and e odd Er. I know and Wehavwe my sisterin law went my cavor people in the world. Serena was here and we did ourbest to memorize the entire King Georgesong good EO. You spend a fully ArnelItalian to remind you of my love. We just thought that was the funniest Tong.We ever heard he sai, I would't know what he did Bo. We arm battalian toremind you of my love, but we we had all these big plans forthe parade. We're going to do. The Golf, cart and we'd ordered all this step todecorate the golf cart under the sea with her two little girls and when Ticancelled everything we decoraed. The Golf Cart Anyway, wrote it around leaves and Jelly Fish,and we did oking and try to salvage what we could and sangthe king's work song and drove around in a decorated. Golf Cart Tat. We aloneGERICLE HA O yo. You realize you're now going to have to sing the King GeorgeSong for us. Ilikewe know what you set yourself up for IAM, to go on of thingson friends and fiction and sing is not one of them we'll see, keep keepng AI winee don'tbe mad at I, brinsinfiction live Y, no, no!...

Okay! So last week we got on somehowGoe on the topic of our first rock concerts and that might have beensomehow I talked about one of my I think my first one was James Taler,Taylor and Carol King Way back when dinosaurs roaned the earth, and we didpromise. We would talk a little bit about concerand music that week. Sowhat was everyone else's? First Concert Chrismine, so embarrassing yours is socool mine was I'm ruining any cool rap? I had it was air supply? No, I can be you with T at withuncom, allout of love, I'm so lost with Ta. You said I wa wouldn'Benot as alreadyfining, and we've already got we're going to have her with that KingGeorge' song an this ermoer anyway. That was my terrible bash. That was myfirst Cansero. I can beat you. I have TF o horse. I was dating his older guy,I was mitwenty and I have to remember my idea of a concert was going teaffer.I mean my first occasion was Madame Butterfly. That's when I en obut so thefirst time I actually went for a concent. I was nineteen or twenty, andI was with an older junt and it was Tom Jones oall to have fun witgo good on et Ory, that's Awso, I lov howI I to tell you honesty. I asked my husband, Marcus, who was kind of coolback then, and I said okay, what was your first concert 'cause? I was goingto steal it, so I didn't have to admit it, and he said: Oh, let's see JimmieHendrix, that's awesome is saw Bob Dillan sing back when he wasitin he saw JanisJoblin, it's Ik. No! I sa Tomjo Idoel alrigh Kristen. Who was yourfirst call so my first by a very narrow mergin was pal maccarty, which is aw.Could there be a better first concert rag? I think it was just a couple ofweeks later I wenthe the new kids in the block. So if if angels had beenreversed, but so Pauma Cartney, but I have to say about Tom Jones Um, I youguys- I know you all know, but I have been working on Chubby checkers,autobiography an have known him for years and years and years, ChubbyChecker, who sang the twist in the SIS m. He was on for his seventiethbirthday, which was eight years ago, something like that a long time ago hewas on dancing with the stars, and so I was in la with him for dancing with thestars and we went out to dinner for his birthday and Tom Jones was dining acouple of tables away and er. Eh shebby walked up to him and started singingTom Jone songs, two chole, two tomp jokes itwthose moments of Lake Rock androll fame colliding. It was so hunty, so er a Heson Jones concert when Iworked for the Savannah paper and all the people were throwing ladies, werethrowing their panties ar and their room keys at time. Oven. I Wa. I waslike at Te Lok, I, U so naeve. I was like they're throwing their underwater.That can hene got out of the Air Supply Concert, I'm justsaying: Isty, atros, okay, so Mi is kind ofridiculous, but I went my first concert. Was the wallflowers do yo, remember thewallflowers Ohcora and it was so funny because I don't know like what I wasthinking, but I m an I remember. thinking like we really digging inabout what I should wear to this concert a wearing this, like, Iremember, writing ust like Cartigan like wh. How was I thinking that was acool thing to war. To cont I mean I was in like sixth grade I don't know, but Ilike remember like picking out l of all...

...the things to pick out. That was likethe worst thing that I could have piked out to earn to O anser. Now you couldhave worn lilypuelasor. That would have been worse that woulhot a been worseyou're right. This is like like a step away, atwes thought I', like jeans, andLi e, I remember, wearing some like clogs were really in and I had somelike clogs that I worked Um so yeah. That was my first one, but my Fendo wasbruce springsteen. That was a pretty ity, an o Taca o o the coin. You shouldjust lie, and Kell People Bruce say: Bruce Bree, Tam, RA, yeah, Ma Aytin toshow you how old I was when I was in school graduate school Ti was in Jerseyand Um. He was putting up signs. You know just hanging up up on the lamppost to tell talk to people about when his consctancs were just to get theshow up. Yeah and I didn't go otherwise. Myfirst councert whgood mind Mary Alli. This is wier sad way into talking aboutmusic and poetry and how it affects our creativity and our writing. Now I'veknown writers who create playlists or spotifilest to inspire them. Whilewriting do any of you. Ladies, do that Patty. Do you do that? I do. I don'tnecessarily make a playlist, but I do try to listen to music. That hassomething to do with the book. I'm writing. So, for example, when I was working onjoy, I played a lot of that kind of English, Baroque musicthat Oxford and London, and that kind of thing for me, though, it can't havewords and Oy listening to music. While I'm writing it, it can't have words orit will I'll get. My brainw'll start trying to sing the lyrics or like thathard drive in the back of Oumy head woe, but your music has always been, butmore so and I think you'll yoall agree. I can't wait. You hear your ancers more,so songs have inspired me N. I've heard a lyric or m like I just was jokingabout that, sending a fully armed battalion to remind you of my love.There's you'll hear this line and it sticks with you and that' inspiredthings in stories for Shur, so not necessarily listening to the words howabout Yo all Christin? What about you? Do you do playlist or spotify, or itKinda like what Patty said. Words take me out of it, so I can't listen toanything with words and most of the time I just write in silence. I don'tthink I've found I mean you know. I write mostly about world ward S, younow and I'm not sure I've found the right music. That feels like ittransports me to the writing. I need to do about world war, two 'cause. It'snot World War, to people dancing in now, dance clubs or something it's adifferent kind of writing and- and I haven't found the music to get me thereyet. So I think it's just easier in the silence of my own head, but Icompletely agree with you: Patty about m lyrics, being really inspirationaland just sometimes someriders can execute a turn, a phrase in just adifferent way than we're able to and in a way that, like my mind, just neverwould have connected those words and it's it's one of the reasons I'mexcited about our episode. In a couple of weeks when we have Sinster Hazelhere 'cause, I think they're really they have some amazing turns of phraseand their lyrics. So I'm looking forward to discussing that with thundergalls. Do you listen to music when Youare writing you knowat fairies, Idon't usually, but when I do, I read somewhere that the music of Mozartactually is gets your our brains synapsens to go on and be healthhelpful. So sometimes I'll. Have it very soft in the background, but forthe most part lie Christen. I write in silence cause I don't get distracted Christy do.What do you? Do I'm silent a lot, but I'm sort of strange in that like if I Ithink, we'v Ta, I don't know. I think I'e talked to one of view about thisbefore, but if it's something that I have listened to a million times likeJames Taylor is an example where I know every word so well that it's like, Idon't think about it. It just blends into the background and it's like verysoothing when I'm editing I like crank up whatever I'm loving the most rightnon like when I'm like making...

...corrections, because hat feel sotedious to me Soh. I, like you, know we'll really listen to me, oing that,but I agree with Patty. I think ou kN W they'll se l here a luric or there'll,be something that you know you hear it makes you think of something and I alsohave sometimes used it like T. I want to remember like what it felt like tobe sin. You LN, I remember whet it felt like to go on that first state orwhatever it was, there's always a song that makes you think of that and Al Herfriends, pect and he's gone up Aonao. When I wrote my first Christmas NovellaBlue Christmas, it was August and I was riding in a rented beach cottage onTaibee Island, so it was o hundred and twelve degrees. So I took a boom box with me and Iplayed Elvis's Christmas albums because obviously blue Christmas and Phillspecters a Christmas gift for you album to get myself because I was trying tosummon a Christmas spirit and th. You know sometimes a certain song like Iwill think about. If I have a couple, that's been together, I'm putting themtogether in a romcom or you know, anyany kind of a book like T at. I willtry to think about what their song would be. O ilike th at I deyeah. So Iam realltis especially. I think that's why that's a good idea to think of itwas when I was writing a book a few years ago called umspring fever. It wasabout my character, had a girlhood crush on her best friend's olderbrother and they ended up getting married and stuff happens. So when Iwas writing that I was, this is the worst story. Ever it's SOAWorny, I channeled my girlhood crush on my best friend's twin brother, UNTE ND. I would have died of anybodynew, but we had a song. He didn't know it ours. Kong was this called Marieinstremental called bovs blue, oh Dohida, you know an that song. I playedit over and over again trying to summon up and and when I was riding that thatstory I was trying to summon up that feeling of hopeless teenage crush and Um. You know back, then I wastrying to write, poetry and Thogh. You know. Last week we talked about poetrywhen we had delya Owens as our guest and everyone. I think was amazed thatthe poetry ind, where the Crawdad sings was her own original poetry, and I knowsome of you, Ladies Actually Rye poetry, so or you know, I know, poetry is ahuge place in Patty and your writing practice. You want to talk about that yeah. I think that, for me, poetry isan art form that I can appreciate without ever feeling like. I have totry it or do it. So when I read an amazing novel and the prosis blowing meaway, I kind of stop in my tracks. Ome want to figure it out or try to emulateit, but with poetry. I can just bask in it. I I'll never try to do it. I don'tneed to do it. I can just it's so one of my favorite poets is David White andone of my favorite quotes. He says is that poetry tries to say the unsayable,and I just I really like that. A Lot m. When my daughter got married, I had noidea what to do for the speech at her wedding, so I memorized my first poemand then Iver recited it. It was a Poen by William Stafford and the first lineis Um. The first line is starting here. Whatdo you want to remember? Oh, and he said what I couldn't say so and then,when I feel out of sorts, I think...

...youall feel the same. Poetry is a verygrounding thing to do and, like I said, I don't feel like. I have to try and doit. So it's easy for me to enjoy fully, but do all do that. Do you listen to it?Yeahi. Do I mean like you when I'm writing? I don't like to read othernovels ever being that's why vacation is reading novels 'cause you get tocatch up, because I don't want anyone's birds in my head, but when I I do lead poetry a lot when I writenovels, because I think it's the most highest form of wrighting in that it itso each word is chosen and they express Hem. So few words what is so profoundand so many times when I get stuck, I just want to be lifted or inspired I'llI'll go to my favorite poets. We were talking last time about how this summer,during the pandemic, 's been really refreshing to read, poetry in themorning. It just mead one palm we take turns me and my sisters and it's justsort of the most fun one were Mary Oliver and I think why Mary Olivers Ohaccessible is she writes, so it makes it look so easy. It's like limilyDickonsen in our day, you know just vary, makes it straight as Shou'd say,and it's just like, I think wow. If I can, I could do that. It's the old. Icould do that Butinclar, you car. I were friends with Patty. He was areally wonderful tha. The poet Lauriat of South Carolina was Marjro rpret andshe is this energetic woman who cand just zoonin and write great poetry. SoI do write poetry, but not a lot of it. I've always been embarrassed to show it. That's what Isaid you know it's like you know: It's not what I do, I'm not a poet, but Iwrite it just because it helps me expressed emotions raw ccense at all, and so the only palmiave ever published was the one is the one called Adysey that's in on OCEABolerat is the first time that I've published it, and I really love thatpoem. I mean I really it nailed. What I wanted to say an all my books aboutturtles. So there you are, is the an Christian. Does poetry speakto you or I write it sometimes and I would soonerdie than have anyone read it, but Um Really Wan ut El be like that's really good andthen I'm like. Is it or tha? Really really bad? You know you just don'treally know, but I I'm not. I've never been someonethat reads: Tongues and Times of poetry. I mean I love Mary. Oliver and I knowwe all do and I do think you know that what is at you plan to do with your onewild and precious life like that has to have changed everyone's life. I meanthat runs through my head all the time when I'm like trying to make a decisionand it's such a good way to describe your life, and I think that's whatyou're saying Mary Alis like she does make it look accessible. Even though,maybe it's really not, we all think we can write HICO 'cause,it's only seven syllables it really hard Wedo. You do you write orreadpoetry, or you have a four year old. I don't know when you would havewellmyfour year old and I were making up rhymes about Gludiaus maximus today. Soif that gives you any idea, the level of poetry I'm working on but Um, I myver, my very first published peace. Ever when I was in fifth grade intoSaint Petersburg Times on the kids page at the Saint p times was a poem. Iwrote called MSR e in the apple tree, so my mom et the posted. I don't evenknow where I would find it. I don't know it was when I was in fifth grade,maybe not even fourth grade, maybe but um. Yes, at my first and only publishedpiece of poetry, I greatly admire poets. It's something I don't think I can doit's it's as mysterious to me as Song Rating, which is another beautifulthing I wish I could do, but I have been reading a book ofpoetry. Recently called Wen rap spoke...

...straight to God by Briter named EricAdawson, who I met a couple F years ago. We didn't event together, she's a apoet and a creative writing. Professor, an Oprah magazine, described it as alabyrinth of race, religion, wrap and wonder. It is opening my eyes to thingsI didn't realize. Poetry could do so. I feel like every everything I neadthat's outside, of what I myself am capable of. It expands me as a writerand expands me as a person, so I'm appreciating that I love now. I justsay one thing about that, because I was really entreating that you brought upabout the HIP hup. I think that's what was so striking about Hamilton was es apoetry of the young and as sumone of a different generation to hear that andthe power and the Baty Oit was phenomenal for me and it made merealize you know these guys who started our country were young, and this is thelanguage of our young and it Wa. I'm glad you brought that up yeanow. Wehave a couple of announcements about forthcoming releases and rereleases andto make sure everybody knows about them. Nomaryalis. I understand there's agorgeous new reissue of the Bookclud you showk about that. I am so excitedand I don't even have a copy F, the book to show you. But if you go to myface, brookdpage or website it'll be up, but it's called the book club andthat's it's a rerelease. So it's not a new novel, an is being rereleased intrade paper back and it's been reedited and I have one of those dear readerletters at the beginning, Iam happy to say you know it. It holds up. You knowyou write a book ten years ago and it's nice to see, and this is a story ofwomen in their who are approaching forty, and I always thought being fortywas a time of a change. You're saying goodbye, it's a second adolescence. Ithought I was so wise at forty now. I know how young I truly was, but when Iwrote the book in at Forties, I just had so much to say about that. SecondAdolescence, about being yourself and not being someone's mother, all thetime or summon's daughter and how one thing I've been in a book club for solong, and I know people that, as listening now have when you read a lineor e you're reading a book for a group and how something sticks with you andmakes you think about your own life. I wanted to bring that into the novel, soit's called the book club and it's a rerelease and it's out tolin twentyfirst! Thank you! Christy! Do you have a Aron Release Yeah? Well, the secretof southern charm just came out in mass market paperback, which was Kindof Fun,not the second bok in my pch tree blafs series and it's been really fun becausea lot of you guys have sent me pictures of it in your hurger and your balgrinesand all of those fun places, and I love math marketsbecause. You can thear themin your beach bag and they don't Waig much and you can. But it's the secondbuck in my peach hwe left series, but you can definitely read it as a standalone and Yahit was exciting. It number thirteen on some sort of CELLERLISTACkroger or something I'm not really sure. Someone Seld me a picture ofoom. It'slike it's on this F oerluch and I a like. I don't know what that is, butgreat, that's Gatestic, Okin, Ou and Christin's new novel, the Book of lostnames comes out July. Twenty first and as we might mention preorders areincredibly important to the success of a new novel, even more so in a pendemic.So we have included the link to preorder and- and we do hope thatyou'll be inspired by what we've talked about to we've- all read it and lovedit m. So that's all we're going to say about that. So we're all GON T we'reGongto go move to the discussion, questions we're trying to do kind of alightning round, so we can get to a lot of your questions because we want toknow what you want to know. We want to tell you what we know about what youwant to know. My question was from Robin Shalley and these questions wereall posted on the Frendifiction faceboo page Robin Shilliyg. Ask what I do whenI get stuck in the dreaded metal...

...section of the story. I'm writing and Ichoose this because I am that's right where I'm at with my book in progresswhich will be out next summer. I am in the sloppy saggy dreaded metals andthey are always a struggle for me. I try to tell myself you're halfway homeor a third or whatever, and so to get through it. I might write down a listof plot points. I still need to check off before I get to the finish line orthink about what emotional turning point my protagonist needs to havereached Um today I was just trying to get to a kiss I trying to get to where the love interests kisses e Protagonis,and you know so. I just put one foot in front of the other, sometimes to changethings up, I'll write, ou a scene out of sequince, but I write in a lineorfashion. Now, who else has a question that they chose Cristien? Did youchoose a question to answer for yourself yeah, so this one is fromPatricia Dilo, since there are hundreds of people watching and joining. Howdoes this penyu compare with booktours for you and how long do you intend todo this? Well? First of all, I think I can saywe're all in agreement that W we plan to do this indefinitely. I can'timagine right any. LADIES: Would you agree with me I can't imagine evorstopping I mean I feel like we've found Um. We just found a place to be ourselvesand to to meet our readers and to get together with each other every week,and you know one of the things that I think we've all really appreciated isthat people are commenting all the time on our fense and fiction group sayingthey feel like that. We're friends like t you know, they've found friends ineach other and they feel like they found friends in us and that just meansthe world to me. I think you all agree Um, so we we're going to be herewhether you all like it or not, e we're so t around andut. How does this carewith booktours Um? I I think it's not H. it's there'rejust two different things. We started this offbecause we weren't ontour andbecause this seems like a substitute for booktours assort ove. In a way it'snot. I meanthere's, there's no comparison to being there in person andmeeting you and shaking your hands or giving you a hug which you wouldn't beable to do now, anyhow right or being in these wonderful bookstores that weall feel so strongly about supporting. But this is just a whole new thing thatwe found I mean, and how else would we all be sitting in our own homes on aWednesday night, interacting with eight hundred or Houson Ofu? I mean this isamazing. It's an amazing opportunity. I think we just all feel so blesse andso grateful that we're here and that you're all here with US totally y. Whatwhat question did you want to answer? Patty? I actually didn't teck oneoff theBASEBOOK, because if I onus were talking this week, Oh that's right. Iforgot rand. We Sso one of my favoritecodcasts is called on me with Crista Tippett, and I love how every week sheasks every guess she has the same leading question. So the five of UStalked a lot about what would be that question that we will ask every guestand we have some we've- had some amazing gas mapson blow your mind,guess coming up. What is that one question that kind of gives you thebackground of their life without doing a a full. You know background check, andso anunfor me to ask you guys that question and the question we allthought might be really interesting is what were the Vallyus of reading andwriting and your family growing up. How is writing and reading value? Did youhave a library full of books? Did your mom encourage it Um, so I'm GNTO shotetaround the Circle Christi? How about you? Yes reading was definitely highlyencouraged in my house, and we had so...

...so so many bugs and my mom would readsme for hours and hours and I love being Red Thouh and she always tells thisstory about how I was like two or Threel, very tiny, an age where youwill not sit still and that she sat down with me and just wanted to see howlong I would let her read and after like three hours, she had no voice andI was still saying hat more story: Mommy Onmer Story, but we definitely Imean we went to the bookstore. Every week we went to the library every weekthere were not enough books for me ever like. I remember this little used bookstore at our tail and my dad would take me on Saturday morning mayb I wouldspend heis very patient, I mean hours andthere and just have you know hordes of books that were like your fifty centsor whatever so yeah definitely definitely grew up a big reader forsure ow about you, canthy. My parents didn't have a lot of moneyfor books. There were five of US born right, one after the other, but mymother was a huge reader, and so we did have books in the house, my hooker byCrook, and we were big library, users. The bookmobio came to the shoppingcenter near her house and when it came, we would get on and all five of USwould check out the maximum number they would let us have and then we would allclimb off the bookmobile and the tires would rise. 'cause we had all the books, that's an amazing hing. How about you,Mary, Alice? Well, I'm ane of ten children, and so we um there were a lotof books, but never enough, you know, Wewe read the same books all the timewe had a library in the house, but not so many little kids books. So we wouldgo to the library nd when we went to the library as a major effort, becauseyou OL O di come ith, the children from that family and g takeover and ourbooks are always over to and so, but we all. I think what wasinteresting to me is my mom was an average reader, but she was pregnant,I'm tethe third eldest and she was pregnant a lot when I grew up, and soshe was in bed a lot of the times towards the last five because she hadtencescarian sections and so the doctor yeah back in the day. So the doctorwould put her to bed for the last couple of months and that's where Storitelling I think was such an important part. For me, as one of the big kids,the elder sisters, we would read books to the kids to put them to bed, but alot of the times we made up stories, so you know for something I'd read. Iwould we were all into fantasy a too much perhaps, and we would stories,would be very much a part of our lives, but we read, but we also made them upto put the kids to bed 'cause in there's ten of you, it's a whole notherscenario. It really is SSO interesting to think about how ourfamilies either bet or didn't feed in to our desire to do what we're doingkristen. How about you yeah? I I came from a family wherereading was very valued. My mom read to us all the time Um you know I was thatkid, as I'm sure you probably all were to who would sneakbooks under thecovers at night with the flashlight you know like that was that was being badlybehaved and what I was just reaching for. As you were talking about it, itoccurred to me. I had this book on. My shell guest was a friendly ghost, andthis is one of the few things I took from my grandmother's house after shepassed away because it's a book. I have memories of her reading to me when Iwas a child so Y, I I still them like ceering up. I read this Tanoathe other day and it kind of brought my grandmother back. I was really close toour lover very much and I have an aunt WHO's only about fourteen years olderthan me, my aunt Donna it's Donak you're watching high, but she was. Shewas a big reader and I looked up to her so much when I was a kid 'cause. Shewas you know. The young, cool, arms and so reading was cool and H. Yeah, soAuntonna helped o make reading really...

...cool. For me to who else has got a question that theypulled off the website. I have one ty Um, so carrol Baker falkonberry asked.Do you ever include some family sigaretes or your own secrets in any ofyour bugs n? I just had to answer this questionbecause I know this happens to all of us. When we have readers come to us andsay I have a story that you have to write in. Like ninety nine point, ninepercent of the time we would say. Thank you so much it's your story. Youshould write it well. One time I had someone tell me a story that I had towrite and she said a'm the last person living that knows a story and you haveto write it and she tells me the secret, and I said I didn't have her rite- that because noone would believe that that actually happened, and so some of you probablyknow this story but Um. When I got the deal from my peach tree blofs series, Iwas not expecting to pitch an idea for a series and I pitched it off the topof my head, and that was the secret it popped into my head and I swear. It waslike her coming to me from the other side because it was absurd. Like Ithought I could never pull this off, but it was all. I could think of inthat moment, and I pitched that secret Um and the woman that became my editor.I was like. I have never read that before Soi like I have to answer thatquestion because it was just it wasn't really the secret that she told me, butit was a take off of it, and so it was. I just. I think it's so neat thatsomething that someone else told me couldn't have inspired three bucks, awhole theory. That's amazing, that is o else. Hat's got a question that theyply to come: Tily Walton and yes, do you add it as you write your firstdraft or do you sort of pull it together as new right and that's aninteresting question? I think every author does his her own thing. For me,I usually wripe fast, like we're doing our sprints and I just write a lot ofwords but the next morning I always begin by reading over the previouswords, and that gets me back into the flow when I do that and a lot of timesI'll I'll edd it Lod. She would' the dialogue, din sound. Quite right- and Ilike to read aloud so I do addit just that much during my first draft and when I send the book in M, then realediting, the Kins after that, but the first saft is light and do I cut andpaste and Mose things around? No, I keep going forward because the goal fora lot of first drafts is to make sure the book is done. Tha Wat, you have you,don't really know what you're trying to say in a novel until you're about ahalfway through and a couple of light. bomes go on, so you can adjust as youmove forand. So I my my recommendation, drawl young writers, and what I do is Ijust get after city draft done. Who else has got a question that theypull? Is that it ies mwho is pulling the live questions offthe website, R afew guys. I have a few that I've saved that I've I've just eenwatching them come in, but if anybody has one right now you can ask it rightnow and I'll try to get to it. Okay, so the first one is: Oh, this isn' aquestion, but I just had to say it because I remember this too. SusanShort sellingman said my favorite days in school were a library daybook Varday ND. When the enlasting book orders came out, and I mean Oh yes to Er theryeah Yhyes, I mean just all three of those like real highlight this rate.Mea, I saw once that said, I'm still chasing the high of a scholastic bookfare hot as so much fun. I love to go workat at wills school because I', like I culd, take it to be here again D. I getto read the book. Fi is so great M.

Shelby Henderson has a really goodquestion. She thought I want to read some more modern poets other than marryOliver anypoet's suggestion. Yehi just said I would read: MargoryWentworth, O Quani Alexander, I s is, you know, he's the new beairboard Tanepoet and Um Wendlberry. These are really, of course, frost. Everyoneknows that. But it's just those are really accessible. poents that I thinkare Emily Dickinson who's, the Irish poet. He came to the indicator bookther a few years ago. He was phenomenal, not Shameis, Sohany, Um, billy, Collins,harly, Callin, old, billy, Collins, re Polorida, he's M he's the poet Loriatof Florida. He I actually didn't now et with him O coule of years ago, he's so funny and reverent and YeahPhillyco, and I would definitely suggest I quoted him. A minute ago,David wite he's moder, he's he's active now he does he's not doing hem rightnow with the Pandamic, but he does walking tours of poetry in England andin Ireland and he's amazing too so, and Eric Adoson as well. The one Imentioned earlier, who wrote when rap spoke straight to God, which came outin twenty eighteen. So that's relatively new and she's, still writingand she's phenomenal and accessible and really interesting. I think ewe'llstart a thread because I know yeah. I know the minute we're done andthey're all going to startyehyeahit's always hard on the spot. So we'll starta threat and everybody can add their favorite modern poets. I think it's agreat adat ga idea an he goesthis is another, not really question, but Ijust everyone has to hear this 'cause. I love it. Connie Cooper said anyone.Remember weekly readers, O you received e Tun. I had totally forgotten about this agood one. This is a really good one.I'm Julie, Jordan, dooth and I'm going to toss this one to you. First Mary,Alice 'cause. You have the best answer with this said I love listening toaudible books when any of you narrate your own books H. I do. I actually always thought Iwanted to, but I am auditioned. I sent my tape to a brilliant audio and theysaid Yes 'cause. I always figured I didn't want to be the ODTHROUGH had inthe Hav someone under meair Bun. Now Yo can a have. So I I've read mistify books from theBeach House on and then they other beautiful repording artists did theearlier ones, but it's it's very hard work. Mhm Tat, I lik the only I I o n read myauthor note. I read I ead N, he ather's note it was beautiful too. Oh, I lok atwell and you podcast very well and that's kind of that's similar. What other questions we have kirs. Dowe have time for some more okay yeah, I think so. M Nancy Langon, says titlesduring the writing or prior to Om during 'cause. I still don't have atitle for my book. Bat and I need a title within the next week, so you guys have all helped me but yea, usually for me the title comesonce I have the idea. This is a very late title for me for me. Usually I start with the title. I think it's a throwback to mynewspaper days when I was a newspaper reporter. I would write my ownheadlines because I didn't like the ones the copy dust gave me. So I itright at the top of my story and it gives me for me. It helps me keep mymind on what the story is about Um, but you know with hello summer. My editorcame up with that title and she s all right write a book about hellof summer.Oh might come before during war after they've. Come all I've changed titlesright before the title was released.

I've had it before I've written it andI found it in the writing. So all of the above. For me, that's why we call the working title alot, because I remember, I think my I wanted turtle summer and it became theBeach House which apparently a lot of other authors like to I' I'm all over the place too. I meanI'm before durring after my next book under the Southern Sky I had written. Iknew what the book was going to be about and I'd written, maybe like twochapters of it and normally mine come from a line in the Buk. I had notwritten a line at all that was under the southern Gy. I was Almix spinbike.We were talking about this earlier oday and I just just topped in my head underthe southern sky, and I was tlike that the title and it was so sho to Ookeavestinite and everyone liked it which doesn't happen like that, often like.Sometimes it's all over the Mac, someone loves it, someone hates it.Someone likes this better. So I love it when it sticks like that and wheneveryone's like, yes, that's the title and the hard part about titles is theharder you try to think of one os likely you are to think of one. Can Iget an ECTLINE TA AD came on. I remember with Um the summer guest thatwas petty. You came up with that title because I was, I wanted to call itwhirlwind. I I loved that title and my publisher Said No. No, no, no, no, andI was duking it up, SOS talking to Patty and complaining and crying, andshe says well what about thes summer? Guess everyone loved it and ther OgunSogon. I heard a book title for Hissyfit. I was taking a bubble bath hand. I was mad about something thatsomeone had done and I just thought to myself: I'm just going to pitch ahissyfet, and that was like. Okay, that's the title. I don't know what tabout, but that's what I undewo o Morgad tidles, one of my favorite. Ijust love that title: The GRAT Sinal we're always Jos of Kathy's titles. Shealways says tha yeah, yeah, Yeah Hiss Fin was a good one thatwas hine n, that's wforever favorite, but of yours. For me, I love that book.I really really love that one. Somebody wants to know, and I can answer this oranyone can answer this. I can't find it now, but two different people ask dopreorders of ebouks help us jus, O allhe order, all three order, elp andso again we're going to say: Kristen has e book out in a few weeks O ifyou're curious about ordering or reading it now is the timebecause I don't think a lot of readers truly understand that those few weeksright before and at the point of delivery are so important. Well, N. Atthis time I mean people are running out of books. The publishers are, you know,everything is slower, it's not like our normal shipping times and our normalwarehouse schedules, and so if they know that you need the Buk you're muchmore likely to get it true, thanks for saying that, I appreciate ityeah. This is kind of a fast one, so Mary Milson Kanstra wants to know whatare your favorite podcas? Oh Patty's, going to jump on this one.I've already mentioned it. I think my favorite picast is on being with cruestetipet. She interviews the most pascinating people, everything frompoets to authers, to Neura scientist to astronmis too. I mean there isn't apotpast, she does hat, I don't find fascinating and she has the longversion where she interviewed them and thet. She has ha cut version. That's onNPR, but she's amazing. Well, my guilty pleasure podcasts. I haven't beenwalking much lately, but when I do walk, my daughter turned me on to Young Houselove. Oh my Gosh whothat Ol its this couple Um and they you know reha houses o. They have a show right. Ev E showYeah E, a no no they'R. No, they don't...

...have a T. V show but they've beenthey've, been blogging and GT US soldheir house. They had twohouses in Maryland, thet had a beach house and they had a house outside ofRichmond, and now they bought a house down on the Bord of Pan handle thatthey're redoing. So that's kind of a guilty pleasure OAFENCE. It would beyou love houses, Yan, okay, so that is it for questions I think now. Christi,do you have a writing tip for US tonight? I do well it's a little loft of awriting tip and it's a little more of an editing tip because, as you guysknow, that's what I've been doing for the last two weeks- and this is sreally simple, but I think we all do this and we we're sort of chattingabout this in our tex this morning, but there are certain words that we tend tooveruse or live for me just gest. Well I mean there is a wholelist of them and so about three books ago. I decided that, instead of havingto realize that every single time I wrote a bug that I would just keep arunning list of them and it it varies from book to Bok Bith there're. Somethat just are over and ever again, and so whenever I realize that I'm usingthat word way too much. I added to the list and then, when I'm editing I gothrough and search that word and I see how many times I've used it and thentry to take it out when I can. So it's not really writing T, but it just savesme a little bit of time and we're so used to reading our ownwriting. I think we miss some of those things sometimes. So it's it's beenreally useful for me. Isn't it funny how it changes with every book? Yeah, maybe the character to the character'svoice is different and they say a certain word, a lot cristen Iwer justotexting about thatthis morning. Briefly, it's not just a word. Sometimes it's it's a point, I'mmaking and I'll say it so many times than it's like you know like as jokethis morning, Whi say at once, when you can say it seven times, exactl Hav, to take it out, but Iremember one time my other tist of Mary Alis. I think they were always jerkingtheir heads. She said everyone in the tire book is different to Eit's. Like erolling, I have to be carebaskd ever Ermit, ten or Y yeah. My characters allspeak softly and Murmur. So I always have to knock that out of DRAF sommany on here said that every bookthey read, someone pushes someone's hair behind their ears and I was like.Oh, I never say that, and I was reading under the dethern sky. I neer was tiscene and he like prushes EMPA, like oneget she's, right, she's, Stardliright now, Sopany sa when iws finishingediting the Florence mangale short strage, finish everybody's eyes keptbeing alight. Never a word I use, but because I wasfrighting about the eighteen thirties I was like or eighteen forties. I wasusing like that language, but then I just got stuck on Thatan. I was like Sh,not good. Okay, we're going to talk about quickly what everybody is readingand I'm Gong to just hold up Whan, I'm reading, because it Isyou and arealways buddy reading books without knowing it now chuse e Baing. Her visit got CasmanGillery next week and this her book came out just this past week. So that'swhat I'm reading an Mary Alice, you're reading Somei hase. I loves Susan Wiggs,just adore her she's great and she has a fabulous newbook I'll called theoystervill sewing circle. She writes groups of friends book stories as goodor better than anyone. I love Anasterberl ostervill sewing circle. I don't have the BOK because it's notout yet so onwe have it on me, but I'm...

...reading Fiona's new lines of FifthAvenue 'cause she's our guest in a few weeks Heona days, an Davis Yeah Nah Pon-is that what I said: Nores Yona a weeirs ad, her last namein she's like share. She doesn't need aLowsmad. A last name: Yeah go she's, just Fiona Pionna Davis lines of FifthAvenue. It comes out in a couple of weeks and letme come on were bookaneards. The whole thing takes place in the New York Public Library and forBookworm nerds like me, and there's a heist and a book goes missing, and it'slike it's like a childhood fantasy to live in the library and then so, I'mloving it loving it yesokay. Thank you. I want to thank everybody for joiningUS tonight. We love hearing your questions and your comments and knowingthat you're even recruiting members from total strangers you meet on thebeach, like one of our members, told us this week. Gon T tar oyeah would also love it. If you would followUS individually on our instogran pages and you can find the links on thewebsite and also something I I think I've been meaning to talk about is ifyou have loved a book really loved a book. It would be great if you wouldshare that love with a positive review, wherever whether it's on the a wordwhich we don't say on this show but eneeds lots. There are lots of placesfor book reviews and if you love a book, you won't believe what a what I boostyou can give a book by telling people that you love it and an author. Yes, you know. Last night, I finished a book.I've loved this book so much it's called the sweni sisters, Lean Dolenand at midnight I finished it. My Fan girled her message just to say I lovedthis book. I wish I had written this book. I hate you for writing it. So don't forget to join us nextWednesday night's seven PM easster when our guests will be New York Times bestselling author Jasmin Gillery and her new book. Romantic comedy is part twoand we have posted a link on the website so that you can order that nowahead of next week and we'll see you, then everybody I die nottwo weekscristen and it's your turn beand girl over you, my Gosh, I cin O na Gin. Italk about it everywhere and the most hilarious thing. As I was doing this, Iwas doing a faceful Glibe, the other night and cristen like popped in she.Wasn't there like I've, been doing it for like ten minutes, then she pops inand it's right, Ati'm like you, have re Bte, Ba name I's so good. I was sittingmy hair kind of crying nd. She was like what a great time for me to pop in andI'm like O. I I talk about Allo, O mugs, every time after deing, something now'cause, I ayassume man. It was funny timing. Thank you, our notmention, though that was reate getting ready for the for the non book tour. Sowhat is book? What does it look like for yeverything kind of kicks off nextweek? I think my first Bookstore Abent is the fourteenth, which is about aweek before the book actually comes out. So H, yeah, I mean it's lot of stuff and I'm,I feel very overwhelmed. I think I'm in Thi, I I'm still in this quarantinemindset, sort of where, like the world outside, doesn't exist and like allthat matters is Wednesday nights and now I'm like wait. I have to show upother times other than Wednesday n et I'm so confused I'. I'm just excited it's going to beUm, just an opportunity to meet some other booksellers and other otherreaders that maybe aren't with us, get on friends and ficion and its going tobe fun. Do you have your Zoom Wardrobe?...

Why yeah always yoga hands or sqet pants onthe bottom? You knowthey said tonight when I'm wearing a dress, which Irealized when I stood up to get that book. I'm like I probably just flashedeverybody, so apologies if you als Hav my Gludeos maximnus tonight, no frewind and Chap yes, my my tour wardrobe consistsmostly of express Portofino shirts, which don't have to be irons and whichI can just snap over my whatever sport I'm wearing that it with myge shirtansowhat in good strategy. You get sour pharadob before a Booktour, no 'cause,I'm still IMEAN. I E so Wat I've La Aa, and I I'm just nervous yeah, a my owndangs, otherwise theyould be Aboue to hear it now, but M Ra. The rest of itjust looks awful thiss! Isn't how my hair usually looks, but it ik it its great yeah, I'm not a bangd person, I cut bangs ona whim and I think November I mean it will not cut them ahead. them cut andassumed they would be grown out by now like it just was something I was goingto do for a couple of months of the winter, and here I am with no real goodway to grow them out, and I don't even knowo look. I don't know he without tat.I Lok it. I know I know, but I feel like I don't look like my author photopeople are going to be like she didn't write that book Sheas se o go e thing dit in his door. When somebody speaksto you or I don't know ar signing- and you say I wrote that book and they lookat Your author Pphoto and they go that, isn't you O theyor, they say wow, wow y. You knowyou look way better on the photo. I co Actualy said that to me oways the man who says it by the wall,none ever Sais to me. I recognize you from your author Feto. I go. Oh my goshtank. You Gon Ou had a lot of money to look thatgood act Y I was at. I was having my mamogram yesterday. It was pretty earlyin the morning and I went to the wrong office and you know I had on my maskand there were two ladies there and Um one was at the desk and she turnedaround looked at me an she said. I know you somehow. I said I you know all she can see. Is this?That's e go. She said You wrote a book, didn't you for THR yeah, but I'm lace fom. Myappointment, where do I GOI saw so yo go o booked in you, and I said yes, shegoes well tell me Your name again. I said well, I write as Mary Kay Andrewisthe other lady went covs athing Ilove it. If Cathy and I tried to wearbangs we'd have two little compoms on our fored. I have never had bangs in my entirelife like not as a child, not any time and it always kind of like wantte. TryIt. But I'm terrified, you ha e totar pieces. You can get in Kentuck in ouher and it gives you bag. So you can see if you like it well e Dati e SubeEtat I hear not had you can actually do the Brazilian blowout just in yourbangs, so so they fall straight and likeperfectly, and so I had that for the last time in maybe January, and itlasts for about three months. It is absolutely worn off now so liketomorrow morning, I'll wake up and my bangs will be like this and likt curled.I the only way I mean they look like this for a couple of hours on aWednesday night, because I flat iron, the heck out of Hem, but it's muchbetter. If you can do the Brazili an blow out in your banks, Oro alienscares me at S, son, I'm not thinking about a it's good. It's like a little chemicaltreatment at about thirty dollars. Just to do your bangs, it's Wuerthen, I'd forget and they'd be halfcurly Haus Straight, so Christene...

...always find the two weeks before a bookcomes out. Is more stressful. Even than yeah, when the book comes out late, Imean don't he but yes OAS. So we're with you, Ryonpe Wa, you youall four of you have been so supportive as well as, if there's anybody stillwatching us out there, you all have been so supportive to, and I I reallyit means aloks me allall the kind words and kind thoughts thewot as wonderfulandeteyo Te Daer ee sice. Thank you do ITA so nervous. Thank you. I have to go.Have a birthday party for mine, Nioeoy Birthday, ingrated Y me, ladies I'm notgoing to be here next week, I'm going to be seeing my baby granddaughter, Isay Y em and a half months and see her so you'll take care of jazz and Gillory.While I'm gone and Um was hee in a couple of weeks, Mossier, a O, O ys, fine pay, you've been listening to the friendsand fiction, podcast, be sure to subscribe to the friends and fictionpodcast wherever you listem, and if you're enjoying it leave a review. Youcan find the friends and fiction authors, aunt, www, dot, friends andsiction. Dot Come as well as on the facebook group. Page friends andfiction come back soon. Oka. There are still lots of books, writing tips,interviews, publishing news and bookstores to chat about goodbye.

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