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Friends & Fiction with Nancy Thayer

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The Fab Five welcome their friend Nancy Thayer to discuss her latest summer sensation, FAMILY REUNION. Hear all about Nancy's long career as an author, her love for old houses and how they figure prominently in her writing, writing romantic plot lines for cahracters of all ages, and her love of Nantucket—a place she has called home for more than three decades and which figures prominently in all of her fiction. https://nancythayer.com/ 

Welcome to Friends and Fiction. Fivebest selling authors and the stories. Novelists, mary Kay andrews, ChristineHarmel, Christie Woodson harvey patty Callahan, Henry and mary Alice Munroare five longtime friends with more than 80 published books to their creditIn 2020 they created friends and fiction to provide author interviewsand fascinating insider, talk about publishing and writing and to highlightindependent bookstores. These friends discuss the books, they've written thebooks they're reading now and the art of storytelling. If you love books andyou're curious about the writing world, you're in the right place. Well hello everybody and welcome tofriends in fiction. Five best selling authors, endless stories. I'm maryAlice Munro, I'm Christine Harmel, I'm Christie Woodson Harvey and I'm PattyCallahan Henry. Tonight is our 17th episode. Can you all believe that itjust goes so fast. We have hosted so many wonderful authors and tonightwe're really thrilled to welcome another wonderful author and a friendof us all new york times, best selling author nancy there. Her new book familyreunion was released May 4th and we're looking forward to talking with herabout this new novel, her long career and her beautiful setting for her books,Nantucket isn't that like the best setting for summer feet? He doesn'tlove Nantucket. And tonight again, we have some very special announcements tomake that we know you're going to love. And we did want to start off by sayingjust in case you were worried about her mary kate andrews just doing somethingelse tonight, but she'll be back. Don't worry, everything's going to join us onthe after show. Well, fantastic. I just assumed that she's taking the night offso she can go scarf mama mama g's momentarily. There we go. Yeah, that'swhat I'm assuming everything. Yes, yes. So if you want to be like mary kateandrews and lots of mama Geraldine cheese straws, um you can get 20% offat Mama Geraldine's dot com with Code Fab five. They're a great partner forus. We love their cheese straws, we love their cookies. And if you haven'ttried them yet, we hope you'll try them out. Uh huh. And you know, we have beentelling you about our big podcast surprise. Well, here it is, we havepartnered with the indomitable and adored librarian Ron Block for theFriends and Fiction Writer's Block podcast. So excited. Now you can joinus for more than just the show. Listen in as the five of us at Friends andFiction along with library and Ron Block have fascinating conversationswith authors and in the know publishing experts. This is the podcast for booklovers and storytellers alike. Let's bring her on on to tell us all about it.I am so thrilled to be part of this team and I can't tell you what a thrillit is. But I will tell you that eight year old me is inside here screamingsome of my favorite people on the planet. You know, I adore you all and Ijust I'm just so thrilled to have this opportunity to work with you all. Um Iwant to just tell you the first one we have coming up because we've got quitea plan already in place on june 11th Christie Woodson harvey and I willinterview wade rouse who is the author of the Clover Girls and ElissaFriedland, who is a new author for me,...

...but I'm loving her book a summer uh thelast summer at the Golden Hotel. So it's there, is that there we're readyto go, and it'll be our first one, isn't it? isn't it? It's very different.I'll tell you how to time if you like um watching mrs Maisel on Amazon Prime,you're Gonna You're gonna want to read this one so we're gonna have a lot offun and I can't wait to get started with that. But looking ahead we have somany other things coming up and I'm not going to tell you the details so thatyou'll come back and read them. But I'm gonna give you some of the categories.We are going to have a couple of amazing origin stories. You know we alllike to know where books come from and what the original Colonel is and how itblossomed into a book. So we've got a couple of really great ones coming up.We're going to have a special Pride Month episode. We're going to havethree very different but very very awesome. Members of the L. G. B. T. Q.Plus community on to talk about their work and their history and that's goingto be very fascinating. We're gonna look for library superstars. We'regonna try to bring in a new angle and some people in the publishing industry,Did you ever want to know how a library puts a collection together that mightbe coming? You never know. I know right. Like we walk in the door and we werelike oh how did they get all that? Well that's one of the things we're gonna do.Great authors, fantastic authors, debuts, memoir, lots of diversity andthere's so much more it's so much more so I want you to stay tuned to thefriends and fiction outlets on every platform. Uh make sure that you go toyour favorite podcast platform and subscribe and like them because that'show we get stronger and bigger and we can bring better things. Um so I dowant to thank the Fab five For inviting me to this party. You are all amazingand I'm just so honored that you're trusting me to be a part of yourcommunity. So I would like to propose a toast to your 70th episode. I have aspecial guest Show us Mary, Kay's here here 70th anniversary. Thanks y'all.That is excellent, thank you. So this shows us how great the podcast aregoing to be and the only thing we forgot to mention is that they aregoing to be every single friday. So every friday there will be a newpodcast episodes starting this friday. I am so excited to get started and Ijust have to say this if you're one of those people that's kind of like notinto podcast and you're like, I don't know what I'm going to fit that in mylife. My new thing now is like when I clean up the house at night and get thekitchen ready for the morning, I listened to the pie, listen to theFriends of Fiction podcast because there's so many episodes that like oneof you guys have done that I haven't done and it's like the greatest thingin the world and I like look forward to like cleaning up my kitchen now. That'samazing. That's awesome. That little something waste. It could be wastedtime or you could be listening to one of our podcast and listen to thatbeautiful, soothing voice of Ron block. It's gonna be amazing. I want that onyour radio. That's funny. I don't hear that on this end, but you sound great.I'm sorry. No, no, no way. Oh, you are you ready? I just want to remind peopleanybody who wants to connect on social media. I met Ron block on facebook, RSblock. MTM on instagram and rS block on twitter. So um, tune in. I'll give yousome behind the scenes tidbits. I'm so happy, so great. I commend patty oneverything she's done, getting this up and running patties kind of beenpatties, our podcast person and she's done such a great job. So what we havealso excited about this, we will be totally lost without this is all veryexciting and I have to say we can't wait to hope you all can't wait. Thisis bringing our podcast to a whole new...

...level and we're all excited on to haveyou as part of friends and friends and fiction family team. And for all of youout there we will put the list of all the upcoming guests on the podcast onour website and of course announce them on our friends and fiction page, aswell as our website, www dot friends and fiction dot com. And you're goingto be prepared for amazement. Yeah. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, give she's looking a little flat.Oh my gosh. Oh, thank you. Okay, we have another special surprise tonight.We love giving you surprises. We all know that mary Alice has her firstmiddle grade book, The Islanders. So that's grade, grades two through six.So it'll be perfect for a little while. Um, and mary Alice has her trailer toshow us tonight. We are so excited. So yeah. Sean take it away. Mhm Yeah, yeah, very short. Very so she's like a middlegrade book would be the way it is. You notice Patti the turtles. They're,they're my turtle hat here, I put it on. We should all wear. But I'm reallythrilled just coming out. Never be back. This will be on june 15th. So rightaround the corner and I hope you all think about it for your Children'svacation. And the story is really about three kids on an island and they areunplugged, which is something that I hope everyone helps to do with theirkids. No cars, no stars, no wifi. So it's also a beautiful grandmothergrandchild relationship in the book and I'm just thrilled it's coming up.That's all I can say. I'm absolutely delighted. And don't forget that maryAlice will be launching the Islanders right here on june 16th with herspecial guests, I Montgomery. And if you pre order the book tonight um, fromour bookstore of the week, which will be telling you about shortly, maryAlice will send you one of the very cute and handy non plastic telescopingmetal straw kits from Friends and fiction. Um, and we cannot wait for thelaunch. We're so excited. And speaking of book launches our very own kristenHarmel has a special one this week. Yes, I went to target yesterday so I couldsee it in in the wild and took a picture and send it to her the book,hold it up again. The Book of Loss Names, which we know was a favorite for,so not was is a favorite for so many of you is brand new in paperback and isavailable wherever books are sold, including your local indie TargetCostco walmart and our bookseller of the week Mitchell's book corner inNantucket. It is a great opportunity to get a fan favorite and a gift at agreat price. Uh well thank you so much. I can't thank you all enough for yoursupport with this book. Everyone in the friends and fiction community has beenso great. I'm so happy that it's out in paperback. It'll, you know, be able tomaybe find its way to a whole new audience. But speaking of fan favorites,Christie's, the Southern Side of Paradise is also new this week in massmarket and we were saying it's like kristen sized, I can carry carry any.It's that it's that awesome little 9 99...

...size that's just begging to be taken tothe beach. So they're available basically everywhere. So this is your agreat week for new paperbacks I think mary Alice and mary Kay have new massmarkets out too. And we hope you will grab these books for your summerreading. Yeah. So you know that every week we have a parade essay and thisweek's essay was written by Christie Woodson harvey. It is called fivelessons my son and the surf taught me, tell us about it, Christie. Um, it'sfunny because when we were talking about the Islanders, I was like, wow,there's, there's so many echoes here of my, my parade essay for this week, butmy son is very outdoorsy and adventurous and he just loves the water.Like he always has just like nothing I've ever seen before. And so I wrotethis week about Some of the things that I learned on a little island adventurethat we had a couple of weeks ago that he taught me. So, um, yeah, it wasgreat and he's um, he's so good at just unplugging and noticing the worldaround him in a way that I think I've lost in some ways. And so watching him,you know, be back in that experience has been really incredible and it wasso fun to write about it and actually, you know, he's like almost 10 and likenot that impressed with me, but I think he was like kind of excited to be inthe essay. Uh he was um so have any of you learned any surprising lessons fromyour Children or grandchildren? I remember when Rusk was little Reallylittle, like your son's age eight or nine, he's 23 next week. He would wakeup every single morning and he would say, what are we doing today? Uh and Iwill never forget it because he woke up with a zest for what are we gonna dotoday? And I want to be more like that. That's wonderful, wow. It's veryinspiring, isn't it? I like he's so inspiring kid. I just think he's asweetie. Um, for me, I think it was actually very recent and it was aboutthe book we just showed the cover for its when I was writing my first bookfor this age group and my 10 year old grandson at the time, I basically hadto pay him to read some pages, you know, here would you help me out? So he wasmy first critic and it was he took it there seriously and he, because he's areal reader and he read it and not the whole thing just may be the 1st 456chapters and he said, you know, I really like it, but it gets interestingand he tells me when it got good. So like a good critic, he told me, youknow, for my group, he says mom a mambo, which is what they call me for my agegroup, you know, for kids my age. So we put it, we like to get into the storyfast and I'm like, ooh, that's a good lesson for a middle grade author tolearn. So I did, I revised, I cut it and you get right into the story, butthank you Jack for teaching me a lesson. That's great. How convenient to haveyour target audience. Uh, in the room. You know, I would say the lesson, Noahhas taught me, he's super into lion guard right now, you know, which is aspin off from the Lion King. So he will often, he's five. He'll often say to melike if I do something and I'm like, oh no, I'm so sorry. He'll say Mom, HakunaMatata, no worries. I mean, he really means it. Like he's not, he just reallymeans no worries. There's nothing to worry about it. Sometimes I get socaught up and worrying about things are worrying that I failed him or failed insomething or you know, done something wrong. Just no worries. Is a good, agood month. A sippy cup with that on it. I think wedo. No worries and worries on Whiteside.

And what are we doing today on theother? Well, I think we all want to be sure to read the essay because it'sgoing to spark a lot of conversations at home. But now we get to bring back,bring to us all the author. We're all looking forward to meet Nancy. There isthe author of 31. I thought I had a lot but 31 best selling novels. And what Ireally love her books concerned the mysteries and romance of families andrelationships, marriage and friendships, divorced and love custody and stepparenting. Family secrets, private self affirmation, and the quest forindependence and the normal hunger for human connections. And that's what weall love about a good novel. Nancy was a fellow at the bread loaf WritersConference in 1981 in 2015, she was awarded the Romantic Times CareerAchievement Award for mainstream fiction. She has lived on NantucketIsland year round for 33 years with her husband, charlie Walters. Let's bringNancy on Nancy. We're so excited You're here. I'm so excited to be here. Yes.Your book, your new book the last time I saw you nancy was when you came to myWild dunes event on island palm south Carolina. And you were with, eventhough she's not here tonight, mary Kay andrews And everyone went crazy for youboth. We have that a southeastern northeastern thing going on at thebeach and it was just a love fest. You remember that? It was wonderful. Yes ofcourse I do. And I remember when mary Alice came to Nantucket for theNantucket Book festival. That was when you took the job, thedress shops, she had, she had arrived and they had lost her luggage, theairline had lost her luggage. So she went to one. Now this is summer, thisis summer on Nantucket. And she bought this beautiful navy blue out that itwas gorgeous and she said I've never paid so much for anything in my life. Ihope you wanted again. I don't know that's Nantucket in the summer. That isso funny that you remember that because I mean the dress was great but I cameoff the ferry smelling very right but nancy was my God dance. She was myguide. And I thank you so much. We should do more of that. All of us. Ithink we are. Yes, clothing shopping on the ticket. I mean waving now. Uh huh. Okay. Do you want to tell us about?Yeah. I think this is the time that we want to talk about your book. Familyreunion. Come on. You can sit. You come into.I've got one in my lap. I've got a cat, a little reality here. I've got a catwho has a urinary tract infection. She wants to sit on my lap. So I hope youdon't mind. No, we love it. Then she's had a tough day and sometimes you justneed health, needs to sit in your left and right. We need your mom whileyou're hugging your darling cat. We all are animal lovers here. I've got a dogin my lap. Tell us about family reunion. Family reunion. Has a cat in it uhnamed Shadow. Uh The cat doesn't show up very often. Shadow. The cat is owned by EleanorSunderland who is 70 years old and who is a very happy widow. Her husband died.But she's living on Nantucket Inn, a...

...wonderful big old house. And she'slived there for years. Her mother lived there, her grandmother lived there, thehouses and her family. Um and Eleanor has a family and she has friends. Uhbut her best friend has just left the island to go on a cruise for the summer.So Eleanor's feeling a little alone and she invites her family, which consistsof who daughter Alicia who really wants Eleanor to sell the house because onNantucket as many places on the coast, um houses are becoming more and moreexpensive and uh Alicia would like Eleanor to sell the house, they'd allbe millionaires, everybody would be happy, but Eleanor wouldn't have herhouse. So part of the story is Eleanor starting her life over in a way withouther husband, without her best friend. Um but she has a granddaughter who's 22,who's just graduated from college and who has just broken off her engagementwith a man who is going to go to Harvard Law. And Arianna, her mother,Alicia calls her Ariana, she calls herself Ari. Ari has graduated, she'scome home, she's told her mother and father that she broke the engagementand poor Alicia is very upset. You know, he's he Harvard Law, how can you notmarry a man from Harvard Law? Um And Ari asks her grandmother if she canlive with her and work for the summer and Eleanor is delighted and that's the way the novel begins.Yeah, and it's such a strong story of family. I just look well, there is afamily reunion in it. Yes, you work towards it. So, nancy, every week wehighlight a different independent bookstore and I know that this week youchose Mitchell's book corner, which is up there in Nantucket. Can you tell usa little bit about why this bookstore means so much to you? Oh my I've lived here for 36 years andRon Block knows the woman who owned it when I moved here, who was named MamieBeaman and I read the new book signings for me, me. But as I got to know me, me,um I was a little bit terrified at first because she would she wouldbellow she would, she knew what everybody read, she doesn't care whoyou are. David Jalbert Sam would come in and she would say, oh, you don'twant to buy that book or or some other celebrity would come in like Tommyhilfiger and when he would leave she would say he's a tool. And I was I waslike who does this? This is a small town. Um There were many otherinstances of that and I wrote away and uh for a book about bookstores and Imentioned that made me terrified me. And Ron block said, you know, she'salways terrified me too, but her heart was enormous and she knew everythingabout books and she would look at each one of you and say you should read this,you should read this and she was always right. Um So she sold her store toWendy Hudson who has had it I think for...

...about 10 years now and um they redidthe inside of the store, it's beautiful, it's more um modern and it has one ofthe three. I think there are three. There might be four elevators onNantucket Man tuck it all the buildings cannot be taller than three storeyshigh Mitchell's. And in the hospital and in the library you can take anelevator from the first floor to the second floor. Um and you can't go tothe third floor that's off limits. So it's a very it's a very special warmplace. Everybody who comes to the island for the summer knows it becausethey managed to cram so many books into such a small space. And I know they'regoing to carry your your book mary Alice not just your novel but yourChildren's book. Thank you. That's really cool. That's amazing. Well andif you order family reunion from Mitchell's but corner you get 10% offthe price and it will be autographed by nancy. So that is a special treat foryourself or for a gift. Now, Nancy's brother start talkingabout your wonderful book. But I have to say that Susan God is one of yourviewers who says she's crazy about your necklace. Yeah. Yeah. I just want toget that out there. Yes, jewelry. Yeah. Well that is pretty, that's that's whatyou call a looker. Alright, so let's talk about family reunion. So with atitle like family reunion, I think this book is particularly pregnant this yearwhen families, you know, we weren't able to get together so much. And sothe idea of a book that's about families gathering together just sortof strikes a really good cord. So I'm curious because this was a year thepandemic year when we were not able to get together. Did this influence any ofthe topics or your plot when you were writing about a family reunion? I think one of the things that I wantedto touch on, because I'm learning more and more each day now that I have fivegrandchildren. Uh One of the things that I'm learning is that our familyconsists of people we can really argue with and yell at and dislike and stilllove and still sit down at the table for Memorial Day dinner and still dothings together. And I've always been interested in families because thereare so many different kinds of people within a family. They're the ones thatgo off and they're the rebels and then there ones who stay there and and lovebeing around their family. Um but one of the things that I've noticed andthat I write about or that happens in the plot of family reunion is thatEleanor, who is 70 and her granddaughter, Ari, who is 22, are muchcloser in their values than the mother Alicia who's in between and I thinkI've noticed this and I, and it's part of the plot of the book. Alicia'sgrandmother who is Eleanor's mother or was Eleanor's mother. It was veryproper and very much interested in the tea cups and the, and the lace uh,table cloths and mind your manners. And...

...uh, I'm wearing this necklace. Mymother in law used to believe when she came to dinner any time, not just onchristmas day, that charlie should wear a blazer And so should my son. And that was notalways something that either Charlie or my son appreciated. Um, but Martha andmy mother when they were 70, they started new passages in their life. Mymother in law, Martha started a social newspaper in boston and it was calledaround and about boston and cool. She went to waltz evenings at the Ritz. Idon't even know if they still have waltz evenings at the ritz, but shewould go to the opening. She had champagne breakfast at the Museum ofFine Arts when there would be a new Van Gogh show or something. Uh, lady shehad and hats, she wore wonderful hats. And so at 70 She was starting a new enterprise at 70.My mother who had been widowed, uh, married another man. My father wasdeceased. My father was wonderful, my sister and I weren't as fond of mymother's new husband, but that didn't really matter because my mother and andher husband Had 10 wonderful years together. So I've always thought being70 isn't when you sit in your rocking chair and start knitting. Um, and theolder I get and the older our our population gets, the longer we're goingto live and the longer we're going to live, lives that are fulfilling andhelpful and we're just now learning this, this is scientific. I'm notmaking this, it's really happening, which is why Eleanor is so importantcharacter. Yes, she, she represents that, that I'm turning 70 or 70 but Iam, I'm starting well is she really at the beginning? But that that's whereyou're going with. Yes, yes. And she learned through the book, uhbecause of what Ari her granddaughter does, Eleanor learns to change her life,which is what I love. Yeah, that's incredible. So nancy, your, your nameis just synonymous with Nantucket. I mean we think Nantucket, we think ofyou uh so much so that I actually did an event last week with Ron block andwade rouse and we were talking about how wade right, so beautifully aboutmichigan. And we all said, oh yeah, like nancy there writes about it wasjust like, all right, So I think you bring it alive so beautifully and youknow, something we've talked a little bit about on this show here, that at atime when we're still not traveling a ton or we're just getting back intotravel books like yours, allow us to do, you know, experience other places andto really be immersed in other places. Can you talk to us about why Nantucketis such a meaningful, I mean, I know you live there, I know you've livedthere for a long time, but I live in Orlando and I lived in Orlando for along time and I don't set books in Orlando. Wait, we don't have to getinto that. But I love Orlando, it's just not, you know, it's not right thatmy books. So nancy can you talk to us a little bit about why Nantucket movesyou and continues to move you to set these beautiful books there. I thinkone of the differences between Nantucket and Orlando is waiting inyour car and you can drive wherever you...

...want on Nantucket. It's an island andit's 30 miles from the mainland from Hyenas and there are fairies that comeand now there are fast ferries that come and go in an hour, but they can'talways come. The planes can't always come. We often have gale force windsand we often are truly cut off from the rest of the world. And if people decideto live here through the winter, they know they're making a choice to beisolated. So the people who live here are very um capable of, of reading orcrafting or walking on the beach or going to dinner with friends. And it'sa real community of crazy people because we love it here in the winter.We love the waves. Um we love the storms. Uh the people who are here arevery interested in the environment. They're like mary Alice's people uhlots of people are interested in conservation. Lots of people areworried about the water rising. Lots of people care about the seals I've andthe sharks. Um and we can go to lectures and meet guys who who pulledon, oh, search, they pull sharks out of the water, tag them, put them back inthe water. Um so there's this feeling of being so inseparable from nature, somuch part of nature that it just, it gives you it's a spiritual feeling, butit's also a practical, very practical matters. Yeah, very practical. You know,and and there's also there's such beauty as a storyteller in dealing withwith the scenario that's kind of cut off and away from the world at large,especially during the winter. And I think that's something that appeals toa lot of people about historical fiction that takes place a lot, youknow, that sort of separation from the world outside takes place a lot inhistory. But it's interesting to find that in the modern day because of theplace you're writing about. I think it's just beautiful that you do that.Oh, thank you. Nantucket is very similar to go for where North Carolinawhere I live in the fact that it's an island. There's a ton of conservation.People are very much the winter, isn't it? You know, reading when I read yourstories and you talk about the difference between the winter and thesummer and you know, our our winter populations like 3000 and our summerpopulations like 30,000. You know, it's a very different. Um, there are a lotof similarities and so I love kind of reading about, you know, thesimilarities between the two places. Another thing that you and I have incommon is that we both really love houses. Um, so yeah, in my other life,I have an interior design blog called design chic and I love when I'm writinga book, thinking about the houses that are going to be in this story. And youknow, I noticed that houses are really at the heart of a number of your novelsand Island Girls, three sisters inherit. And Nantucket House heatwave is about aB and B. Summerhouse tells the story of a wealthy family in a beautiful mansion,then summer house, the guest cottage and the island house and others. So I'mjust interested what interests you in writing about houses And how do youthink that um they influence your setting in your stories? Oh, that's a wonderful question,Kristie, thank you. And before I talk about houses, I just want to say thisis such a spectacular group. You will...

...just looking at your faces, yourwonderful books. I love all of your books and even though I might meet you someday, I reallymight um but I am, I'm honored to be with this group. I'm and I'm thrilledto see all your beautiful faces. It's just um and and you all as mary Aliceknows you're also young and I love reading. I'm more a reader than I am awriter. So I gobble books up and when I get a good book by a new writer, it'sthe best present in the world. When I go into the bookstore, I just like, andI said to one of the people who works in Mitchell's, I just want to buy allthese books and go home and read. And she said she felt the same way. Uh sohouses, I was raised in a modern ranch house in Wichita Kansas and my motherhad chosen to live there because she didn't want to like stairs. I thoughtwas, well, I never, I never liked the house because I was always readingbooks that were set probably in a castle in England. Well, I alwayswanted to live in England. I've always felt on this island. It's inescapable not to be aware of thearchitecture because most of the houses look exactly alike because it'ssomething called Greek revival. And when they settled the town they decidedthis is what the houses should look like, because this is getting too Uhcomplicated, but because they believe and the uh, separation of church andstate that they were going back to the Greek ideas and a lot of the houseshere have Greek pillars. Um, but the other thing about our house is that itwas built in 1840. Oh, wow. And that gives a lot of that atmosphere, but italso gives a lot of work, I know, patching something, adding something.Um, we had four floors. So when Sean thetech guys, can you go get your ear bugs? I walked up two flights of stairs andand found them because for my office, and I'm sorry, it's a big house. I'm there, there is an atmosphere in thishouse and I I'm not saying there are ghosts, although a lot of peoplebelieve there are ghosts in the house. But This house has stood here since1840. It was built by the captain of the whaling ship. If you walk down thestreet to Union Street, those houses were built by the like lieutenant ofthe whaling ships. And if you go up main street where there are thesebeautiful brick houses with white columns, those houses were built by theowners of the whaling ships. So there's lots of history here and and there'ssomething about house, a wall...

...that, you know, other people havetouched. Other people have said and looked at the fire and wondered whatthe world is about. And we have fireplaces here. And I won't say we allwonder what the world is about, because once my son was in here with a friendand they decided to uh stick stick into the fire and we'll see if they're here.We're burn. Oh, these are great questions. These are the deep, deepquestions. A fireplace. They are the deep, deep, that is such a good answer. And my,it's funny that my husband always says, you know, my friend is a very old towntoo. And he always says, you know, people say like uh something about ourhouse and he always say, well, it's not our house, we're just the caretakersuntil you know, the next family moves in. Because I think about that so oftenabout all the people that lived in this house before us and how very, very longit's been here. It's pretty cool uh nancy. You're making me probably all ofus now want to visit, but you're making me want to live there. It sounds likethere is a story on every corner nancy. Like if you want to tell a whalingstory, if you want to tell an 1800 story there, just waiting there for you,fascinating. I wish I could do historical fiction and maybe I willsomeday because this is a very strong island for women, women. And one of themain streets of the town um, is called Center Street, which being Nantucket,it's not in the center, but it used to be called coat robe because when allthe men went off on their whaling ships, the women ran the businesses. They ranthe grocery store. They, they sold the needles and the hammers and they ranthe town. And we've always had very strong women here and um, we've alwayshad a very wonderful african american group here. We've had many Quakers.We've had many women, um, like Mariah Mitchell who was an astronomer whodiscovered a comet. Um, it's, it's a very intellectual place. There's nouniversity, but as I said, there are so many people who are interested in, inthe history, in the culture and the environment. Come here. No wonder youlive there will have and write about it. Oh, hell yes, I'll have you all comeand you can stay uh, if you're not allergic to pass. Uh, even if I was, Iwould pretend that I wasn't. So just to come. Okay, back to the novel. I wantto hear more about family reunion. Here we go. Okay, so family reunion is alsoamong all the other things. It is a coming of age novel which are in manyways some of my favorite novels. So two women, a grandmother and agranddaughter. And you talked a little bit about the multi generational thinggoing how they're teaching each other. But in this book, they both fall inlove. And a number of your novels, you show how characters can fall in love atany age. We're not we're not saying, you know, it's only for the cute youngones, my daughter and kids. So could you talk a little bit about the lovestory aspect in two generations, you know, sandwich on either side of themiddle generation and how they find love where they never expected it.First of all, I have to say a lot of people do fall in love on Nantucket. Alot of, I mean I met my husband when I...

...was visiting a friend, the director ofthe library, met her new husband when she was introducing a talk. So it's, Idon't know if it's because when people come here they feel a little more carefree and open to the possibility of love. Eleanor is widowed and she wasmarried to a very nice man, but he was very um very uptight, very, very properand um interested in the rules and being punctual and all of that. Andwhen he when he's deceased, Eleanor of course is sorry, but um she's veryhappy living alone and she doesn't even think about being with another man, butshe meets just by accident, an old friend named Silas who is like many ofthe men around here who are who have fished and they voted and they'vesailed and they've walked and and they have accepted old age with real joy.And and when Silas meets Eleanor um there at this concept market andthey're eating ice cream cones. And to my husband said, I have a lot of foodin my books and it's who I do, But what a nice way to meet someone over an icecream home. I love. That is adorable. And Ari, who was 22, uh meets thebrother of a friend of hers and she's not even looking for romance. She justbroke up with someone and she is just learning what she's really interestedin and and her values, she's learning her core values. That's one of thereasons she broke up with her fiance. Um and so she gets to know, not justbec but his family, his younger, his younger daughter, a sister, his oldersister is a friend of Ari's and they do the things that you do here in thesummer that are so wonderful. They go sailing together, they go swimmingtogether, they stroll around the streets and again, it's not it's not aromance. My books aren't romances, although there is romance in them andBut I think we all want romance in our lives. I think even when you're 70,Eleanor's age, you meet someone, it's nice to have a companion to do thingswith. My mother was very happy when she met a man and married him and they gotto travel together. Uh, so that's a strong point of the novel without anyquestion that they're both the generations. Um, I love and I think theword coming of age doesn't always mean a 12 year old or a 17 year old.Sometimes at 70 we can be coming of age, coming into a new, a new last may new.Yeah. Like I wonder what we should do today, but where, who is the mother whois so trim? I am such a problem. She has a transformation in her life andI'm not going to say what it is. Um, but I think at any age we can have atransformation and that's what, what part of family reunion a reunion isabout. But we're also with our families...

...and um, we can argue with him. They cansurprise us, our memories talking about houses. Eleanor remembers all the timesher son used to ride a little tricycle in the house and ram and all. Andthat's, that's not a bad memory. It's a wonderful sweet memory of of the houseand the little boy and her life and that passage of life. Yeah, amazing. Kristen do you have a question?Should we move on to the, did you want to question why did the live questions?All right. We have some nancy. What we do is we get to ask questions and thenwe asked our audience if they have questions. So let's move right intothat. So, from our viewer named Diane Russell, um Harrison, how do you thinkNantucket has changed over the years you've lived there? Has it changed forthe better or the worst? Hi, Diane. Nice. I see you on facebook. Um youknow, it's easy to say things are changing for the better or the worsebecause things are changing. Um as I see it now because I like houses andlove houses and care for them. They're changing very much for the worsebecause now people who are billionaires can buy any house and there is ahistoric district commission that has a code, but a lot of the people will say,um, I don't really care what you think. I have so many lawyers, they can bankfrom the town and I'm going to tear this house and who cares if there'swood to Was here 200 years ago. It's horrible. Lots and lots and like aknife. I mean that just is heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking.It's very sad. I've seen that happen Next door. We live in town. We have, asI said, a house that was built in 1840 and the twin right next to it um wasbought, it was torn down, it was renovated now. They've just choppeddown the magnolia tree so they could put a driveway in, say not begin karma.So there is a feeling and it's not just, well mary Alice talks about it in herbook. People now come here because there's air, it's beautiful and theycan have a house built or knocked down a house. And um, and it doesn't, itdoesn't does it change for the people who aregrowing up here? I think it does because they can't afford to buy ahouse here. They have to live with their parents or they have to leave theisland. Um, I feel that I feel like we're changing not for the better, butwe just have to wait and see, don't we? Because a lot of the people who aretearing down the houses and building new houses are also giving money to thelibrary, giving money to a safe kids giving money to the hospital. And asour, as our population becomes much more diversified, it's the people who who are tearing down the houses thatare also helping to keep our hospital running. So Diane, it's both. I guessit has just changed in an breath...

...balance. Right. All right, okay, maryAlice, did you want to do one more question? I think there's still onemore. Yeah. Okay, great. So, we have one nancy from, from marjorie bowsroberts who says, I love how Eleanor is only a few years older than I am. Ireminisced back to when I was young and how I am and how I am today throughyour well described words. Do you see yourself in her? Uh huh. I do. Ofcourse I do. I see her, she's much like me, but I I didn't really realize thateveryone who's in their seventies isn't like me. There is, there is a lot inthe novel where Eleanor says to Ari, her granddaughter, Yes, you can comeand live with me and you know, my bedrooms on the second floor, so youcan have your bedroom on the first. I want to have a man over. Uh people arewise. How can the grandmother say that? And I realized very grandmother wouldsay that and that's why that relationship is so special to and Icould talk about this forever. But we is one more thing we want to listen toNancy and that is a favorite part of all of ours. And that is the writingtip. So you've been writing for 30 some years. Can you share with us a writingtip? Um The writing tip is, don't be afraidto delete. I keep a file called cuts. I mean I keep it on my computer and Ikeep a file and I put all my cuts there because otherwise I would think I waslosing the best sentence or paragraph um ever written. And I'm so cutting andsaving in a separate file keeps me from being anxious. But don't be afraid todelete it hurts, it hurts it nancy. That's funny. I have the exact samefile also named cuts on my computer. I do the exact same thing. Yes. Uh nancy.Do you have any books to recommend tonight? Books you've been reading andloving lately? Well, you know, I have been reading, uh, surviving savannah.Thank you. Uh, I did not pay her. Uh, I think you need found. Um, and of coursethe newcomer, um, one of the books that I've enjoyed very much is called, um,summertime guests. And by, let me see if I can remember her name. The bookAutomatic. I hm um, is it? Well, that's terrible. I forgot I blurbed it. Hangon. Okay. It's a lot of fun. I've enjoyed it. Of course Viola show. It'swindy Francis. It's windy Francis Francis. Yeah. It was a great, I'msorry. You know how, when you are blowing like a whole bunch at once andit runs. I mean, I remember the book really well because together the titlestogether, I could draw the cover, but I couldn't remember her. Yeah, The CloverGirls. And you're going to be talking to wait Yeah. Next, next time I'veenjoyed that book so much. And I'm going to give it to a lot of my friends.Yeah, we all are. That's a great book. Okay. I you know my goodness. This is Imean the Hours just flying by. So we have another question that we'd like toum ask you. But all of you will will put the titles up on the facebook pageso you can get those. But we have one final question for nancy after a littlebit of housekeeping. Yes. So I just wanted to say a big thank you again toour amazing partner, Mama Geraldine's.

Um If you have been around for a while,you know that I always rave about their Seminis. But especially during theSummer, Memorial Weekend is a memorial Day weekend is a really good time.Especially if you're at the beach or somewhere where people are gonna bevisiting. Always make sure that you have your pantry full of mama g'sbecause you never know when guests are going to stop by and they're an instantparty. Good advice. Did not forget to join the Friends and Fiction officialBook Club, which is on facebook and hosted by our friends, lisa Harrisonand Brenda Gardener. So there are over 6000 strong now, which is amazing,they're still growing. I was just talking to them the other day about abig when your anniversary we might be doing this summer, so exciting and wehope you will join them on june 21st to discuss mary Kay andrews new book. Thenewcomer mary Kay will be there and in july mary Alice Monroe will be withthem to talk about the Summer of Lost and Found and the Islanders. So this isyour chance to ask the authors all your questions and really dig into thestorylines with a group of friends and fiction friends and if only we had oneof them. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh man, I'm sorry. Oh you're dying. All right. Sowhile she's getting her sound straight I'm going to remind you that next weekwe are delighted to host authors Sonali Dev and mary Bly who you might knowbetter under her pen name A Louisa James. And if you are ever wonderingabout her schedule, it is always on the Friends and fictionwebsite as well as the sidebar of events on our friends and fictionfacebook page. And don't forget to check out our new friends and fictionWriter's block podcast within every friday episode starting this week. Yeah.I also remind you really briefly, um if I know you have been waiting forFriends and fiction merge and we have it. Finally we've got beautiful tshirts and wine cities and coffee tumblers. They're all available fromOxford Exchange so you can definitely check those out and we would love it ifyou did so nancy. We have one final question for you. One of the thingsthat we love to know about our authors is what shaped them into the writersthey are today. So what were the values around reading and writing in yourchildhood? Oh well it was read books I I was raised, my mother readincessantly every saturday she took us to the grocery store and the libraryand we always came home with a pile of books library. Um I I always thoughtthis is amazing, I just have this card and I go to a nice lady and I get allthese books I grew up reading. My father read, my mother read everybodyread. I didn't know people didn't read and uh my friends read. So I think it'sa normal thing to do. And my husband thank heavens, loves to read. So and myChildren love to read. And my grandchildren who are perfect. Love to.I That is weird. And you mentioned libraries, we have a running tally onjust about every author is library. Library is heading impact. All right,y'all. You can begin summer right now by grabbing a copy of nancy Thayer'sbook, family reunion. And don't forget if you order from Mitchell's bookcorner tonight you'll get that discount. An autograph book. I mean you're goingto get nancy's autograph book. That's such a deal. And the link is right atthe top, sitting at this page for music click and I think we're already girlsfor our trip to Nantucket nancy, Get...

...ready And it's always such a treat tosee you. It's lovely and your necklace is lovely and thank you everybody. It'sa wonderful book. All her books are lovely nancy. Thank you so much forcoming tonight. Thank you. Thank you wonder that's our show for tonight. YouYes, you Nantucket and next week right here, seven o'clock Eastern Time and wehope you'll join the writer's block with round block and listen to all thenew exciting podcast. So goodnight, everybody happy reading. We're allinvited to Nantucket and I think we should plan it. She was great. It was,she was so great. That was such a great show and I think it was funny to likeall that, there are just a lot of like nice parallels and all of our segmentsof the show tonight that I think we didn't necessarily plan. But um, shewas lovely. I cannot wait to finish the book and so glad that Alicia has achange of heart because full Christie when you get to the last line. Ithought it was one I always say that readers will sometimes forgive badbeginning, but they don't forgive a bad ending and the last line of familyreunion is a butte. I just love the way she talks about Nantucket like, like alover. You know, like someone that she has known all of her life and loves allthe same. You know, like you do about Savannah. I have a surprise guest. Uhyou don't need to have a surprise guest. Oh, I hope it's one of the babies. Yeah,but she talks about Nantucket the way you know Cathy mary Kay probably feelsabout Tybee or you do about Beaufort and you know, there's just this greatadmiration for the place she lives that makes you want to go. Yeah, that's Ilove that. I think like setting is so important and I remember writing myfirst couple a was well mary Alice Stop High Delius. It's really see you. I'msorry to barge in on. You know, you are never welcome. Never barging in. Youcan barge in every single episode. What really surprised, congratulations onyour success has been a very popular being. So, I'm really you were one ofthose people. All you're doing the authors. Uh you were one of our first.That's right. I was Yeah. Youtube writing up a storm. Sorry, are youwriting up a storm? I'm writing a way we can ask for pretty stormy waves,thunder and lightning at the moment. The way we are waiting for your nextbook. Wait, I love and we can't wait for the movie. It's I've been visitingthe onset and um Tate and Chase are so cute pictures where they where theyfilming, do you? Well they're filming in the swamps outside of in southernLouisiana instead of instead of north Carolina. Because the swamps there andthe marshes have a lot of different habitats with the Cyprus and thespanish moss. Just much more adverse. So you know, it's beautiful. It'sreally beautiful. And who's playing K? Who's playing? Kaya is played by daisyEdgar jones. She's she's nominated for...

...a Golden globe for normal people. She'sshe's perfect for kite. She's so tender and so tough at the same time. Wellwe're so excited for you. Well thank you so much. Thank you. And we all wantto come on the red carpet so you know, waiting for invitations. I'll help youin the movie. I've never had so many offers for date in my life. Well, I'mshopping for my dress right now. Wait, just lovely. The way I was telling youto come out. That's awesome. That's awesome. It's good to see you. Wait, Icould afford the wine. I thought it was gonna be one of the puppies. I meandealing with the matter, we thought it was a puppy. I know that was an amazingnight. You guys. That was amazing. We missed you, Kathy mary, Kay, we missedyou. You know, it was uh you know, that was just like a I spaced um when um youknow, I was doing an event with our friend um Colleen Oakley whose new book,The Invisible husband Frick Island came out this week. Oh, thank you Sean fordropping that. Um Sean is on his a game tonight. whatever, vitamin Sean, I meanyou mentioned of merging that script and he, I wow, that was like boom, Ihated Missing tonight. But I had wanted, I wanted to support Colleen. This is agreat, such a sweet, tender hearted book. Um fantastic. He says you'resitting around the show in three weeks, four weeks. Yeah, yeah, you can be onthe show. I'm just reading my way to have Yeah, well, I think I just loveseeing you all, but yeah, it wouldn't be altogether if you weren't here. SoI'm glad you got here. I was running into like just turning off one andjumping in the next. So it's, you know, when books are released, its it's abusy time. Yeah, I'm not really sure. My mike for the past, this is thesecond night in a row. I've done a virtual event all of a sudden. I don'tknow if my mike, I guess I better check it out. Oh Colleen is going to be on,on June 30 and 30. You all tell? Did you tell people that we have a newthing that we're going to do next week? Not yet. So I'm going to tell them nextthing. You know, we know we told them we have a big surprise for them nextweek. Well I'm gonna be the last today. Yeah, I don't know about you guys. Iwould love a glass of mine and I see mary. Kay, you already have your, mydogs are barricading the door way. What a night way piers for all tonighteverybody. Thank you for tuning in, join us everyweek on facebook or Youtube where our live show airs every Wednesday night atseven p.m. Eastern time and please subscribe to our podcast and follow uson instagram. We're so glad you're here.

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