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Friends & Fiction

Episode · 8 months ago

Friends & Fiction with Lisa Scottoline

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Get ready for a raucous good time on this episode as we welcome back to the show an all-time F&F fave, the #1 New York Times-bestselling and Edgar Award-winning author of thirty-three novels, Lisa Scottoline! Lisa joins us to talk about her latest pulse-pounding thriller, a soon-to-be major bestseller when it’s released by Putnam on March 29th, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BENNETTS. We talk about her writing process, her Philly Inquirer column and books she writes with her daughter, author Francesca Serritella, her dogs, and her love for Bradley Cooper. We learn all about whether Roasato & DiNunzio will make a comeback and if Lisa has more historical ficion on deck after last year's phenomenal ETERNAL (recently released in paperback).

Welcome to friends and fiction for New York Times best selling authors endless stories. Novelists Mary Kay Andrews, Kristin Harmel, Christy Woodson Harvey and Patty Callaghan Henry are for longtime friends with more than seventy published books between them. Together they host friends and fiction with author interviews and fascinating insider talk about publishing and writing to highlight and support independent book stores. They discussed the books they've written, the books they're reading now and the art of storytelling. If you love books and you're curious about the writing world, you're in the right place. Hi Everyone. We are so sorry for the technical glitch, but we are here live and it is Wednesday night and that means it's time for friends and fiction and even with tech glitches, it is the happiest and best night of the week and we are so happy to be here with you. I am Patty Callahan Henry, I'm Christy Woodson Harvey, I'm Mary Kay Andrews, I'm Kristin Harmel, and this is friends and fiction for New York Times best selling authors endless stories, to support in the bookstores, authors, librarians and you watching US tonight. We are talking with Lisa Scattalini. We Love Lisa Scattalini and we'll be talking about her writing life, her new book, what happened to the Bennett? Oh my God, it's so good. Oh, writing with her daughter and, of course, dogs, always her dogs. And, as you know, we continue to encourage you all to support independent booksellers when and where you can, and one way to do that is to visit our own friends and fiction Bookshoptorg page, where you can find Lisa's books, all seventy or eighty of them. Yeah, books by the four of us and our plast guests at a discount. We also want to remind you that Christie's newest to the wedding veil, is out in next weeks. Were so excited about so six days from now, and Mary Kay's the new the I'm completely blanking. The home rerecords is out of my her I'm so sorry. I just got out of five hours in the car. I'm my brains everywhere and of course they are available wherever books are sold. But if you want a hand signed first edition of both books, plus a free gift, which is that Nice little notebook in the middle that comes with sticky notes, you could order the springbox from our friends at independent book store Oxford Exchange. You will receive a beautiful delivery of both books, each of them sign so it's a great opportunity to get your books autographed as soon as they are released, so they'll get to you right away. And if you haven't read my two thousand and twenty one book and Patty Two Thousand and twenty one book, which are surviving Savanna and the forest of vanishing stars, those are coming this spring at the first week of April and the first week of May, in paperback. And hopefully you were one of the five hundred people who entered our recent giveaway with page one books, and so tonight we are going to announce the winner. Drum roll please. Have only we had a guy that Ye, thank you. Are the backs? I'm really good at your excellence. Yes, our winner is Julia Kushner ofv from Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Julia, as our lucky winner, you get to choose between the boozy reader bundle or the Jane Austin Persuasion Bundle, and men will be in to hook you up. Meanwhile, everybody out there, you know about our special page one books discount right. When you sign up for a page one subscription package, you get fifteen percent off with code all caps friends fifteen. And thank you all of...

...you for supporting our sponsors. And I have to tell you about something that you are not going to want to miss. One. Miss Mary Heay Andrews has a huge launch party coming up. Do you want to Tell Mada? I would love to tell you all about it. So it's going to be the Atlanta launch is Saturday April, April thirty, at LF Harrington home, which is a gorgeous art gallery in home furnishings shop in Brookhaven or peach tree hills in Atlanta, and that's from two to four PM. And we will put the links to foxtail books as our bookseller, and you can go tonight to their page and buy your ticket, or we'll put all the graphics up on my page and on friends and fiction. Tomorrow we're hoping to see so many friendly faces and we can't I can't wait. I can yeah. Okay, before we introduce Lisa, I want to bring on our beloved surprise guest, Ron Block, for a huge announcement. Y'All are going to be so excited and he's going to stay for a bit because he loves what happened to the Bennetts as much as we do and he has a question for Lisa. Could you bring Ron on? Hey, that's about time. It's perseverance, perseverance. We haven't have of those in a while, not that long, not that kind of but anyway. Okay, you ready. Yes, this has been under reps for so long and we just wanted to share first with our friends and fiction family. After many, many attempts to put this together, we're so thrilled to announce the next location for a friends and fiction live. Yes, it's the FAB for and meg will be joining me on May fourth at the Cuyahoga County Public Library, and the links are going to be in the comments and they are live right now, so you all get first crack at the tickets for this. It's going to be amazing and I can't even tell you how thrilled I am about this. So the go to the link. The tickets are going to include a cardcover copy of Mary Kase the home wreckers and a copy of Christian's forest a vanishing stars in paperback. Will also have copies of the Wedding Vale Surviving Savannah and many other backlist titles available for purchase and signing. But wait, there's also an opportunity to join for an exclusive and limited pre show, meet and Greek to benefit our library foundation, and thank you all for agreeing to do that. That's been so generously. What's about? It's just before mother's Day, so it's a perfect mother's Day gift for yourself and someone else or someone else, and it's so if you have any questions, reach out to me on facebook. Go to Kyahoga Library Dot rg follow the links. You better get those tickets while you can, because they're not going to last. Yeah, I'm so excited. Oh Man, I can't even tell you. We have been cooking this up like, stirring it like, which is in a pot, very quiet, and we're so excited that we're so bad about great keeping. Oh my gosh, we're bad. Well, we did it. You don't have to live in Cleveland to join us. You can not at all. Yeah, that's whoop. You know, we had people come from all over when we were in the SAVANNA book festival, so don't think you have to live in Cleveland, although Cleveland rocks. Cleveland Hotel Recommendations again. Reach out to me on facebook. Are you can just stay at Roms Ron and be happy to have everyone. I'll get lots of block mattresses. Can we have another techlic? Hurry...

...please, it's this thing on. Okay, now, go ahead. No, you have with our book subscription in hand, our guests for the evening. Go ahead and married. Oh okay, so as well. Listening a long time, and can I just say that Lisa and I have been together longer than either of her marriages. I'm just saying that Lisa is a number one, that's selling New York Times best selling author, Edgar Award winning author of over thirty novel she has more than thirty million copies over books and print, and it's published in thirty five countries. Amazing. She also writes a weekly column in the Philadelphia and choirer with her daughter, FANCESCA Saraatella, which is titled Chick wit and shares a witty and fun take on life from a woman's perspective. The stories from these columns, along with several other never before published stories, have been collected in a New York Times best selling series of humorous memoirs, including their most recent I see life through rose a colored glasses, which are my favorite color bosses to rite you. What a coincidence? Yes, are these popular fiction and non question and her reviews have appeared in the Philadelphia in Choir, The New York Times and the Washington Post. She previously served as president of mystery writers of America and Taught, of course, she developed justice and fiction and her Alma Mater the University of Pennsylvania Law School. She lives in the Philadelphia Area, very near the block where Little Patti grew up and her new broke. What happened to the Bennetts is out next week, on March twenty nine, seawn. Can You bring Lisa on for real this time, real this, this is so great. Thank you for having me, guys. I love you. Guys, we love you. I just want to give you some love right up front because I think you're helping other authors, your women, helping with men. With the thanks, Ron for being here, but you're doing something phial at a hard time for everybody and it's just a way to connect and I was really looking forward to this. So thank you for your perseverance through all the days, because place everybody who was so patient with us yes on Lisa, thank you for your patients. Good Lord, we for Y'all out there. We tried to get on six or seven times and Lisa sat there through all of them. So nothing to do, man, I'm here. Oh, I'm sure you have nothing else to do. So, Lisa, I love what happened to the Bennett's so much I tried to get guess the outcome, and yet you did that magical thing that is so difficult, making it both inevitable and surprising. So, before we take a deeper dive, can you tell us a little bit about what happened to the Bennett's? Patty, you're so nice to say that. You know I loved your books as well. Surviving Servant, I mean, he go on and on. And we also have to say before we even start that the wedding veil is out the same day. So we share what days like being star sisters. That's right, exactly right. It's like. But Um, so what happened to the Benetts is the story of a family driving home from a field hockey game and they get carjacked and it goes horribly tragically wrong and by the next morning they find themselves in federal witness protection program and I just kind of wanted to look at, you know, all of the connections we have. Like in a way, this show is a perfect case in point. CASSIE and I've been friends forever, like even...

...though we're quite young, you know, we had connections that go back. We are connected as people and families, modern families have all those connections, you know, and some are by text and summer facetoface and summer virtual. And what happens is at the WIT SEC program is designed for criminals, rights, designed for bad guys who seek protection from other bad guys. Maybe they're not on facebook, but when you put at a regular family in that situation, they have to leave everything behind. And we can talk more about that if you want. But the whole notion that you can't say goodbye to anybody, that the characters, for example, he has a business, he can't go to work the next day. His wife is a photographer business. Her mother's and assisted living in memory care. She can't say goodbye to her. The kids have to leave their school and soccer practice and violin and and and text and chapter. You know, you think the pandemic was bad. They can't connect virtually at all. So that's really what I want to explore. It's really away in a way. When I see you guys and these lovely faces. It's kind of like putting rons who's lovely in his own right, that you know these connections and how they endure and how they keep us all going through hard times, and what happens, like in what happened to the Bennett's, when you take that all away. That's what I was really trying to explore. That's all amazing and, as I've told you before, this is the kind of book where you just have to buckle up and just take everything off your calendar because once you start you are in for the ride and you're not going to put it down. I lost a lot of sleep. Now it is a twisting, nail biting ride in all the best ways, and we all want to know. What was the original spark for the novel? Was it the witness protection program idea of the normal family being thrust into something very outrageous? Where to come? We know that would be the impressive answer, but the real truely would get from Scott'Lini is that I hate jail gators. That's where I hate it. I love it not above it. I used to be a lawyer. I tell you that. Even know what you're like me, but I follow the roles. I don't speed and if I'm going to drive, and I drive, if I go into slow lane because everybody wants to go past. And that's where it comes from. I just was like, you're driving along, it's always me with a couple of dogs in the back seat, all cavaliers, completely used this animals, you know, and I go wow, what if I what if I were what if this tail gator carjackt me? What would I do? And that's was the idea and that's where it came from. It just came from the people drive too fast and they need to slow down, unexpected thing. That the amazing. I love it. I love it so that we just live in the world like everybody. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that occurs to you and it's not a very large concept, but it's a team guy anymore. Yeah, to this screed that starts a story. It is absolutely I think. Would Parker, you what triggers you lots of times is you know, that's where what's what's sets you off? Yeah, right, everything is okay. It's something sets you off there's like this buzzy energy with it, so use it all right. Yeah, if you grow up with an Italian mother and then you actually become one, like me, you know, my mother could imagine disasters, like when the leaves were wet, you know, or it's the running with scissors, or it's to hold the pencil down, load up. Everything is fraught with peril. Guy Forbid, you're driving and someone is too close. I got something. I interrupted. That's all. No, no, I was just gonna say that. I now have to leave, and I was going to say by Bitches, but my mother might watching. Mother, my mother might be watching, so I'll say so, don't you say? Piece out and love to all of you. You know...

...how. Please do. Yes, I love that, Lisa. I grew up in a house fraught with peril, also, not just a house, like a family, you know, like a worst case scenario. Exactly, not me. And like if I call my husband and he doesn't answer, it's not like he's busy at work. He's dad and a gout her, like one of them, an active shoot, her has comment building. Are You dad? Dad? Butter is a great book title. I'm just telling you that. Right now, baby and our family. It's always dead in a ditch. You didn't call, I just assumed you're dead in a ditch. And that's what the thing was too, because I realize when I was writing this, you know when you go with this premise, because then I get the FBI, the FBI guy who's my source, and I go and he has she worked in with second I'm like wait, let me get this straight. You can't even tell. Like my best friend, I see her, we do things, she if she text me and I don't text her back, she goes. That's weird. You know, you can't even. You know, we do a lot of checking in throughout the day, like when she flies, I say, let me know when you're land, because it's when you're a single girl, you like no one knows what happens to you. So if you know so a little bit, we check on each other and you can't even say to your best friends or your family, don't worry about me, a bad thing happened and I have to go in hiding. You can't even reassure them. So what happens? And you know better than anybody, because you guys are so savvy with social media that people start first you know, in the absence of an explanation, they come up with a narrative. Right, we're all storytellers. That's what I love about you guys, and I love when People Watch you, because it's like we can. You could write a book. Every single one of us from write a book. If we can do it, you can do it, true know. And so what's going to tell a story? And Imagine, wait a minute, they were here, they always put the recycling out, they walk the dog. He put he he runs, she does Yoga. What happened to the bandits? And then the fear, the people get on the act and the whole things that. Well, it's your basic nightmare. Yeah, it well, it's a great premise. And you also co write with your daughter, which we find really fascinating. We mentioned your weekly column and the Philip and Philadelphia called Chick with and your book that has we love your titles, things like have a nice gilt trip. It's really now. I have a design blood with my mom, so this really resonates with me. This is all like mother daughter's dynamic, but I'm always so interested in how other mother daughter do always navigate this. So right, well, we fight it out. She has a mean uppercut, but I kind of like get getting out. Really she always has like we were great across the lines because she lives in New York. I'm like, HAH, that's funny. You're grounded, basically, but it's great because she's you know, she's she writes on her own. We write about just our lives in the hope, as you know. You know that if you write about your own life with honesty, you have to be honest. We have to feel like you know the literal truth, like you're going to look and find your first great Shin Hair and realize you know, you're turning into an amish man, which is great, really right. But you also have to tell the emotional truth like that maybe get lonely or maybe you're nervous or whatever that stuff is. Yeah, and so I just tell it from my point of view and she tells it from hers. But happily and amazingly, thanks to support of all of wonderful people who follow you, guys and and my readers and hers, she wrote her first novel, called Ghost of Harvard, this year and every reading with me she's she's flapping our wings, which is a wonderful wonderful thing. You know, that's all we really want, for children to be happy and find their own voice, and she literally did, which is kind of great. That's so awesome. Love that. Well, speaking of navigating a big life, you have a collection of animals all about you, horses and dogs and chickens, and you've received more awards than we can possibly list, and yet we get the feeling that your animals and your daughter are what you cherish the most. So how do you maintain balance between, you know, all of these...

...things pulling at your time and ascension? Well, you're so sweet to because. But you know what I think is great about us, and it's great about women, never runs on here at now. I'm looking. We go forward. Yeah, we go for it right, yeah, Cathy, yeah, we we put one foot in front of the other and we're kind of the glue in these families. And even if you're single mom like me and you have a daughter, you know she was mugged, she calls me for in the morning, I'm there. I don't know why I'm saying this, but my point is this, that that we're there for each other and you just try to you realize in your life that okay, may maybe didn't know would be so incredibly single, which is good word for celibate, you know, and spend way too much time fantasizing about Bradley Cooper, and that's really fantic like pathetic. But I think no, because Paul Rod is much hotter than Bradley Cooper, who models. I have role models memorized. Don't even start with me. But Um, but then I think the talents comes when you go. Well, the balance unfortunately comes because, well, I don't have to worry about that husband thing and I get the old closet. But I always feel so lucky and blessed. I just do. I just and I guess, maybe because Kathine knows, we go way back and years of struggle as a writer when you was first in paperback, that I got to be a writer, that I get to live in life and books so that I fill my life up with love. And maybe there's not a guy, but there's fourteen chickens. That's a pretty good trade off. Somebody around here has eggs, because guess who does? Say spake if you eggs and I pats and I got two horses. And you know what? was kind of great, and I feel so lucky is nobody is around to tell me that I can't, and I'm not speaking very seriously for a moment. That especially if you've been a single mom or you know, we as Mother's we put so this is kind of my turn. I get to put myself first for a while, and I'm really very lucky and blessed in that. I think I thank God every day for that. That's awesome, it's amazing. Okay, now let's get down to write. What you know, Lisa, okay, and it's true, you have put so much of yourself in your books, starting with your first beloved legal mystery series, Prosado and de Nunzio, and then branching out the standalone thrillers, many of which have a domestic aspect, which I think is you know, it's just so, it's so appropriate. I think you were probably one of the first women mystery thriller writers to do that. What part of you, because you know, we know that you went to law school, you law clerk? Did you actually practice law? Yes, okay, in fact, I'm a child. Yeah, okay, so we know that fed into the Rosatto denunzio books. But what part of yourself do you think ended up in what happened to the Meness, besides, I mean besides the tailgator? Right? Well, I think, you know. I think what you learn in life it look at me getting offul I'm sorry, I's philosophical. Is that you have to be yourself. My mother always told me that. So when you start to write the book, originally, I remember way back when thinking well, this is a legal thriller, but this character, and she's a young woman in South Philly, which is kind of what I was, she goes home from Sunday dinner and I was like I never saw that. Look like can you do that? That's weird, and then you realize that I think to a certain extent that's what you know. We bring that perspective as women. You can't ignore the domestic angle and it's and I remember the earlier reviews that think like Oh, it's she's good in the domestic detail, and I was like, Dude, you're missing the point, kind of the domestic. Look, we will all have jobs that we love, but our family is what matters to us and it's...

...just as simple as that. And so that's why it should be in our fiction. That's why people relate to our fiction and and so I fore it sort of feel like that's kind of the standing in your own truth, being yourself part of the story, and that's what we bring to it, and so that I never want to trivialize that. I actually think it's important and I think I love that there's more more people writing about that, and men as well. So then you know he's a man, he's a male main character for women. For a long time I only wrote women and then I'm finally like, you know, you could just try to write a man, because I'm like kind of insecure. So I need a lot of support, which I give myself. So your other always way too that was way too southfilling for this crowd. I'm sorry. It is not one of the standalone thrillers had a male protagonist to ran his wife. That was I love that book. I still think about that book. Thank you. Well, you know what, I was super close to my dad and I challenge my dad for this. I channeled him rather because for me, you know, we're really concerned as a society with superpowers. Like I go to the marvel movies, those movies five hundred million dollars they make and I look like that, I go because I'm almost sort of looking at the fiction. And why is it in contextual, politically, socially, whine now? And I think we're always trying to figure out the limits of our power, and particularly men, because unfortunately so much as thrust upon them to kind of like you must be all these things, things, and and my dad wasn't like that. I was very close to many believe it. I was a quiet guy and but my mom wasn't. So who am I like? And but he always thinking, he was really steady and really loving and always there. And so this character, Jason Bennett, you know, he doesn't perceive himself as a hero, but whenever you write a book with the lead, whether it's a hero or a heroin you know, nor afferen says, be the heroine in your own life, not the victim. I kind of love that, because we don't was when we always conceive of ourselves as the actor, as the main character, because we're in a supporting role. Oh you need orange slices at three o'clock. Got It, why do you tell me? Yesterday? But in any of it. So you know, I I really wanted to bring my dad to life, to a certain extent, and you'll see shepherd this family. If this awful thing happens, he has to stept into a role, this hero he never has before. Right. And you know, I think, and you know I think, each book we write changes us a little bit. UH, did. Did this book change you? And yes, you know, I wrote a jurnal before this which was historical fiction, and that was people going through Mussolini's fascism and World War Two. Right, and then we came to this and I thought, you know, in a way people look at these covers and they go, well, that's different. Historical picture is different from thriller, and that's when I learned that that you can't tell a book by its cover is a try way to put it. Those death those setting in time are merely form over substance. So what I learned from eternal is that person going through hardship can be Mussolini's Italy, which is awful and horraffic, but it can also be that your whole family is taken from you and your world is taken from your family, and that, to a certain extent, Bennett's made me, I feel like, to as certain someone you go through these hardships with these characters, especially if you don't write with an outline, you're totally Henicky for about a year of your life. How they going to get out of this? Because truly you're, as the author, going how am I going to get them out of this? Yep, can we get out of this? And Its the end of eternally of this character, Maria, and she says what she looks in her refrigerator and says, what can I make with what I have? And I thought that's the perfect that's a very female housewife, home cook approach to how do...

I survive? We don't ask hers. You can need the pandemic right, all of a sudden we're getting groceries delivered and we have fantastic and we're spraying cereal boxes my daughter's home. We're spraying in animate objects. Yeah, terrified that they'll kill us. Like when was last time? We're afraid of SURUND rap. Last March. So how we each so each book does change me. Cursus are I need the peptal in each book groomines me. You can get here, you will get through this. Yeah, that's what I never thought about it, but no one ever asked me that before. That's doesn't even drinking. Look, I have like this. We got it. We know you have a white claw in that camp. Well, Lisa, vodka makes exactly so. Lisa, I'm glad that you mentioned eternal because, as you know, I just finished listening to it on audiobook today and I am kicking myself for not reading it earlier, because I don't know why I didn't. I think I'm just so busy with blurbing and, you know, trying to keep up with a six year old and all the minutia of life and everything. It was truly one of the best historical fiction novels I've ever read, which is all the more stunning because it was your first your first step into historical fiction, right. I mean this was something that's outside of your normal genre and for those of you out there who haven't read it, it's incredible. It most historical fiction, I think, spans a period of like a small period of time. This spanned all of World War Two and the years before and after it. I mean it's an epic. It's this beautiful like I don't even think I've mustered my thoughts about it yet because I just finished it and had anyways I could go on for the next thirty minutes, but we don't have thirty minutes, so I wanted to ask you a couple of questions about it. One, how was that for you, doing something that was so far outside of what in writing books is never a comfort zone. I think we push ourselves each time. But how was that to do something that was outside of the norm for you, something you hadn't done, that stretched you may be more than you expected. Right. Well, Christen, first I just have so you know I love you and I love your books and the forest of vanishing stars. I will never forget those scenes in the woods. I'll never forget. I mean they stay with you and it was just such an amazing and unique, uniquely original take on these horrific times and it had that naturalism that was in Craw dads that I kind of loved in Crow Dad's and I thought you really picked up that. They just was really just a stunning book and where I just so lucky to be able to talk to you guys like this. And I guess there's only people listening, so I should get try to innswer their question. Oh, I know what it was. You know, the truth is I too insecure and I'm in credit. I am. So I didn't know if I could do it and I was like, can you do it? Can You? It's I just like, but you know, sometimes you get tired of doubting yourself. I'm you just go, oh my gosh, Cat Mary UA, write that down, she takes our notes right, that yourself. And I finally thought and I read chryl Sandberg's Book Lean in, and I was like, she said in it something like women often don't take risk. But they don't say that. They say I'm not ready, and I was saying I'm not ready for years. And I love sporkel fiction and I really like a scene and I'd always want to write that idea. And now I'm writing another one. And that's why I see the Christen. It's amazing because, honestly, that's when I said to myself, Oh my God, now I've written a thriller and I written historical fiction and I'm writing fiction. Next title is sacred about the rise off in this it's so different, you know. Yeah, and right, people can write conti it doesn't matter when you set it. Better Story and the core all of you, all of your stories are about family, every single one I'm looking at the beginning pages of the Linnvale. It's three sisters, it's a mom is. Oh my God, I'm there, you...

...know, and I don't have this, but I can tell I'm going to buy cares like because that was one one, but I best besties, as we know, we all get our best. He's in. There are sisters that we choose. So then you're writing Erotica's that correct? And neither is my memory. Okay, oh my gosh. All right, well, it's so. That is amazing that you're writing another historical fiction, like best news ever. I better love my life. I feel so grateful in my life that I can write everything and really it's just where. That's the first amendment part of our show. That's so great. You can just write it and and God blessed readers, who I mean I because you know, this is where I tell you that I read my reviews online, so I'm referent day. Yeah, but I love when they say, you know, I don't read historical fiction, but I like this and I'm hoping that I'll get people who you know, yeah, ready, colonel, and go well, I'm going to give her a chance because I liked it turnal, and I don't really like throws, but you really can't pull the book it's cover. You just can't. That's that's so true. And you can't fit things so neatly into a genre. Okay, so quick follow up question to that. Do you think that pushing yourself to stretch, to write this wonderful sweeping historical fiction story has has taught you to stretch in your other writing to like do you think this is kind of opened up new avenues to you in the future? Not In terms of different genres like erotica? B was Shawn is suggesting Bradley Cooper Erotica Fan Fiction, which sounds like a great idea. I don't see why you're not doing that. I would get a resting. I don't have flat Bradley. I still do you still have one stirs rather? Is that a youthamism? There you are. You keep a clean caddy. Know how, Lisa. But aside from Flat Bradley and Your Future Bradley Cooper Erotica has had, do you think they're giving yourself the permission to stretch that way with the TURNAL, opens up other doors for you as a writer? What will that will that push you to new and greater levels in the future. Do you think? Well, you're so nice. I mean I you. You hope so. Well, I have to tell you this is a personal matter in your heart. You feel better. Yeah, it was, and it's great. Like you, you know you're younger, Christen, but you must. But really, but when you're in this life for so long, and God bless these readers who enable you to stay there, you don't want to always do the same thing. Yep, and if there's something that your heart speaks to you, and especially when you start to become your own boss and kind of step into that and own that a little sin, you go, what else are you living for? Yeah, you living for you have to do what you want to do and you have to be you. And so that I got to do that, and then people read it and gave me a chance, because not, that's a very generous thing of people to do. You know, I always tum analogies. When you go to a restaurant. I know this freshman I to go with with my daughter. It's little hole in the wall place in New York. They change the menu. I'm like, don't change the menu, I want to sell one with the cous coups with that white coup. I don't know what it is, it tastes but and I'm a little bit and I learned from that. I said, don't be that way, you know, have that sound every time. Try The hell abut open it up, kid and life. So you're Christ. It is a lovely question. As a personal matter, I'm so gratified that I tried it, that I kind of showed myself I could do it, because that's the person you're really talking to, and that the readers came to it and said, Oh, yeah, you did it. Yeah, it's really nice. You sure did. You did it. You're so amazing. Well, what a gift we have in this profession, putting these readers who are so oil and supportive. Yeah, and you're so right for supporting bookstores,...

...because we need independent bookstores. We just need booksters in our communities. Yeah, and it's a great reminder for all of us, because I when I first went to right Mrs Lewis, and I told somebody my idea and they said why don't you write it? I said because I don't write historical fiction. And the minute it fell out of my mouth I was like that is the stupidest thing to say. Yeah, right, whatever I want doesn't mean they're going to buy it, but run, I can write whatever I want and I love you. Live by example, my friend. Okay, we have so many five questions, so Mary Kay, I'm going to let you go first. My friends. Okay. Well, you know, we have to always ask Cathy all's why questions, because she's Meg's mom. Love Her and we we love Ho. Cathy wants to know, and these are two favorite characters of mine, as you know, Lisa, she wants to know will risotto and the Nunzio make a comeback? Well, thank you for asking. Yes, the answers. Yes, I'm going to do them after this historical and I'm good because I miss them. Isn't that weird when you start missing fictional people? I can put them. Yeah, and sometimes you hear their voice coming out of your head. So you were all a little nutty. They're so great together. I mean they have that kind of Starsky and Hutch Energy, if I can date myself, the Sun Dance Kid. Thank you. I appreciate that. With thank you for that question. I missed them too. It's interesting. When you were, you know, just doing various things, you know, standalone is a different matter from a series. Yes, he's like Oh friends over time, you know, like the way we go back and you and that's exploration and I missed that. So I will do great way to explain them. Okay, so we've got a question from Joyce Merrill, but first I wanted to read a quick comment from Maria Lou who says the ghosts of Harvard was awesome. I loved it, and of course that's your daughter Frantasca's books. So you know, we know a lot of people in our community have read it. Such a great book and we're happy that happy our friends and fiction readers have embraced that. To Think, Joyce, I'm so happy. You know I'm lactating right now actually. So that's I will say, because I'm a problem, that it was nominated for best best debut thriller, which is Really Great. So I appreciate that you guys read it. It's a nice thing. That's awesome. We'll good. Okay. So Joyce Merroll's question is Lisa. What is your writing schedule? My writing schedule is will you remember? I told you I'm completely celibate, so I have no life and I'm sublimating seven. So ever, again, that's what you here's my here's my laptop. This is, you know, a room. My kind of rehabbed over time and I work every day the week and I do two thousand words a day and that's in first drift. You know. Anyway, says right drunk and it's sober, and I kind of that. I'm drink, but I will, I do drink, but that while I'm ready and clarify these things. But I we just try to get the first draft down, like in the MOT says. I give myself permission to write a crappy first draft and then I try to get a good I would say to myself, get it down, then get a good I talked to myself a lot. As you can tell. I'm the only one will talk to me anymore. It's really sad. We love talking to you. So we're I have to say this first. Nancy Wakeley said everyone was a little suspicious about what happened to the FAB for tonight. They were a little worried. We were taken. What happened to the Benett's? What happened to the Fab for Manappily, what happened to the F and F's and Barbara Wojic wants to know if you and Francesca will publish another book together. I really hope so. I really hope we will. I still write that humor column and she contributes from time to time and you can read it on my facebook page every Sunday morning at nine o'clock for free. Or subscribes...

...the newsletter and we send it to you, because I know not everybody. I'm very proud that it's in the Philadelphia Inquirer, but not everybody was in Philadelphia. Otherwise you would have this horrible accent like I do think about that. I said I would. Said can I record my auto book? They're like no. Actually, be like a leg up for you, because MAG noted that Bradley Cooper is a Philly boy, so you might have like a shot. Tell you I'd. I know I'm sending him Philly Vibes. Cheese, saying any a make mook rocky running up the stairs. Girl. All Right, Terry Ziegler, Randolph says, I listen to the books you wrote with your daughter during the pandemic. I know you want to hear this. They made me laugh and they gave me something to look forward to when I wasn't going to work, and I just love that. That's really well, that's what I love about audio books to you know, I'm a Freaku with them now. I walk the dogs for an hour and I listen and it reminds you when we write, like, for example, when I write anything, I read the whole book Alout in the House, like the dogs are like, Oh my God, she's talking to the computer again. But you have to to hear how it sounds, not just a dialog right, but the exposition to and so I love that because I think that's who we are. Yeah, well, stories, we tell stories, like you said at the beginning, endless stories. I'm like, that's true. And you know how you find that out? In every lady's room, because in the first five minutes somebody's going to start talking about something, and I'm going to tell you about thing one and thing to my ex husband's you know, like we just start, we start telling stories and it's the best thing ever. And you know, that's why I feel so lucky to be able to do the job. So I just get to tell stories in print and people read them and they write to me and it's very, very wonderful. We talked them number of times on here about people who read their books out loud when they're in the copy editing stage or the final phase, and I was recently doing some edits and I only had to add a few things, like an epilog and a couple scenes, and I went through and I had only those out loud to see if they had the rip, same rhythm as the book. And there is something very different about yeah, doing that right, right, I bet that's sometimes they'll be a tonal problem. I guess it's, you know, if it's a tense scene, but you know you read it ten scene. And the thing that I hope, though, is especially if you don't know what's going to happen, like people say to me, you know, do you know how your book ends? I'm like, I don't even know how it middles. You know, are you impressed that? I'm like it alum, like freaking out from the anxiety when I write. But I think that that anxiety gets in and you find that tone because you're nervous and then if you come back to it and you're not so nervous, then you're like what is this a walk in the park? Like get in the car chase somebody. You know, that's yeah, depending on the kind of thing you're reading, but that's certainly the Bennetts. I mean what happened then? It's is intense. Yeah, well, you don't start off like and this family once lived in that boom or in a car. Yeah, Yep, and I'm like, Oh my God, here we go now. Well, I think Christy put her finger on it because I never had before. Eternal wrote, I mean eternel takes all the most of the domestic thrillers I write take place in like three days and then when I turn I like least this is twenty years, like you got to move this baby along, like, don't Tarry, girl, and I obviously talk too much, as you can tell, and really getting from listening to me. But I was like, well, let's see if you can get to the point for jam and the funny thing is that writing these humorous things that we do every Sunday, which are really fun to read, read, and she felt life and you can reading for free. Is If you have eight hundred words to tell a story. I always think back cartoons. Like a cartoon, you know, the characters are right there, the situation's right there. The resolution is like boom, and I have that in mind. So sometimes I go try to get to the point, like see what it feels like. You might like it supposed to ask you for a writing tip. I think he just gave us...

...like a whole string of writing to yes, Oh, I'm so full of advice. Let me tell you, my daughter loves it. Favorite thing. That just made me think, Megan I. Today we're in New York and we went to see a matinee of the music man for so ambious. Yeah, yeah, there's a song that Marion's mother sings to her. What is it? Something that, if we want to know what I think anyway, I don't know why made me think about that. I know everywhere this is it. Oh, yes, yes, yes, she goes and she's giving her advice about men. Look, yeah, Oh, and your library full of books. Yes, it's like, don't let this one get away because you're an old spinster. It's a great message. I'm Sun, I know, honey. Where were you when I need a me? But it's really dated advice, like yeah, you like books, what's the matter with you? Let Luckily there's Hugh Jackman to look at, and I follow the show with my daughter and but the message is so wonderful and you walk out of the theater. Well, that's what the arts do, right, make all of us feel terrific and connected. Yeah, okay, but now back to the writing tip. Yeah, even you get you've given us a budge. Give us like when you talk to I know you do a lot of workshops. Give us your best newby writing advice. My Best Newby writting advice is best. Do it. It's from a shoe company, and we're not talking prost you know, it is an in Lamotte here. Huh. But I think it is the best advice myself, because sometimes in the movie you like we love you. I know, thank you, and I'm like, well, when you got to do in this seat, they have to have to get somebody across the room. Okay, there's that, but also it's like just jump in. Writing is so behavioral. So you just do it and you don't judge it. Philip Roth, right, great novelist, like great novelce. Watch. I had a class with arms and Undergrad said, you know, in an interview he said, when you're a writer, don't judge it. It's not for you to judge Steven Sonheim says. You know, stop wondering if your vision is new. Let others make that decision. They usual we do. You keep moving on. That is the job of an artist and it's also the job of person. You keep moving on. Don't care about when anyone thinks. Just keep there and be you and just do it, and that's and I think you know. Look, people who love this show and they're a legion know that you talked seriously about writing and I hope the message they have is that they really can do it. We didn't go to special schools for right. We just said, well, she can do it, I can do it, and why don't we just try? And God bless you guys for supporting other writers, because it's really wonderful what you do. Thank you so well, Lisa. We love to ask authors for a book suggestion and we love that, but there's also a question that the New York Times Book Review Asks Authors that we love. What book might we be surprised to find in your library or on your nightstands? Huh? Well, the last time I talked to The New York Times, I okay, this is a dumb answer, but is it true answer? Look, I have three dogs right and right now we're having a doggy with behavioral problems who's guarding his water at all times of the day. So what's on my nice stand now? What I was reading last night? This is a lame answer, but it's a true answer, is the monks of new ski. I sometimes have to go. I buy a lot of books. This is...

...a research books by the way. This is only one room of my house. I have books in every house and I read. I love books about dogs. I read dog training books, I read, you know, Georgie the cavalier from England books. I just love dog characters and I need the refresher in training my dog. So that's I don't know if that's surprising, but I can't believe I'm reading a dog to teach, you know book the teachers you had to tell little all to sit, but I have thirteen year old dolts and I want them to sit. It's a game changer. Like it seems like it's really easy concept. We have a new puppy at their first puppy ever. Lisa, Oh my God, there you go. And it's amazing because I'll be like, oh, this isn't a big deal, Oh God my God, but but it is. It's like you like watch a video or read a book from like a real dog expert and like two days later it's like he can do the thing that you've been my baby wet against the Watton. Oh if I just read the book Mordecai, Mordecai Siegel is my God man, and it's life changing. It's really life changing. So that's my advice. Let's see if the New York Times likes that. What do you think? We're gonna see if it's fit to print national punty days? That was the perfect Lisa, if you don't mind sticking around, just please for a few more minutes. We just have a couple quick announcements. Don't leave us. And we are getting requests if any of your doggies are year that people want to see some, but we can just post them on the facebook page through in the bedroom with socks in their mails so they don't bark larious. Okay, just a few reminders from us. Have you bought your coffee from Charleston Coffee roasters yet? I know I have. I always do. They're my favorite, long before this partnership. But everyone in the Friends of fiction community gets twenty percent off all bags coffee on their website with the code coffee with friends. So I don't know about Y'all, but I'm taking advantage of that. Also, be sure to enter our monthly giveaway. We're going to pick three winners, one each in March, April and May, to win a three month coffee of the month club subscription, which is a ninety dollar value. So get in into winning using our entry form, shared on our social media and in our newsletter and, of course, good luck. WHOA Christie? Hold on, don't. Don't you have something to show us, something huge, something no one wants to miss? I might I'm so excited to get to show you guys this. I didn't think I was going to get to but this is the student to be released TV ad for the wedding bail, but I got special permission to show it to you guys before it goes anywhere else. So Shiny. We got one wedding mail for women, the family heirloom that symbolizes happily ever after. But even treasured heirlooms don't reveal some family secrets. Joe In these remarkable women as they explore their family history, and it's mysterious ties to the famous banderbilt family. New from New York Times best selling author Christie Woods and Harvey the wedding veil on sale now. Wow, wow, that's a that's wonderful. That's a great are really excited about it. So, anyway, thanks for intulging me and checking it out. We am leaving on Monday for tour. I'm sure Lisa is too. Or you going on tour this time? Lisa, nil up, I'm still vernic cool, I'm still virtual. Okay, well, while I'm slipping around with much twentyzero suitcases, think of me. I'm super excited. You get to come out and see everybody and obviously be in the southeast. But if you're in the southeast, I'll be all around there for the next three weeks. So I hope I get to see a lot of you on tour. Now she's going to be in a shopping cart and a...

...target near me right. I mean most popular post of all time, so we'll definitely have to recreate thank you. Graduation's being on target. That's wonderful. That's just wonderful. Well, yeah, okay, yeah, all right. So you know it is March madness time I'm told. I mean Christy's all about and and Patty's all about the march. Mad As, I don't not any more. Do that are upset? Last week we got knocked out on Sunday. Okay, keep going. Okay. So it's march. Man is on the podcast and we're talking about our writers block podcast. Each week we post links under announcements each time a new one dropped. If I love that cow book is word. A new episode launches each Friday. On the last episode, Ron and I talked to Lisa and Ey's old friend, Harlan Koben. We Love Harlem, about new novel, the match. This Week Ron's going to talk to Christy about her new novel, the wedding bail. Yay. We know a lot who have been participating in our very first friends and fction reading challenge and this month we are encouraging you to read a book about a female historical figure, which you know not to be so self promotional, but the wedding vail is about you to think Cornelia Vanderbilt. If you're like I've inspected off your list yet, but I think we all think everybody here would have something really great for that. But this month you know, if you're looking to keep track of this month or any other month, we do have an amazing beautiful reading journal designed by US in conjunction with independent bookstore expert exchange, as a beautiful letting cover and inside there all these prompts for you to fill out all your thoughts about the bug and our friend and Nisa Armstrong, who runs the challenge. We posting about our upcoming April Challenge, a fictional account of a historical event. What would be a good book to read for that? I think that there's somebody on the screen that has a new paper bag of her fabulous surviving savanna. That would be perfect for the April reading challenge. So I'm trying to look on my eyes, okay, and make sure you join US far episode next week, next Wednesday, right here at seven PM, a dear God, right at seven pm. So where we will celebrate the launch of Christy's the wedding veil, and there might and there might be some head here that that we all have to wear, and some of them are kind of astounding. So if you ever wondering about our schedule, it's always on our friends and fiction website and on the head Er graphic on our facebook page and then after that we are going to be on a two week break between seasons. But on April five, because there will be it is a special day because my paperback is out. Yep, there will be a special video from all of us that will only be seen on friends and fiction. The five of us, plus meg and run all got together at the ships of the scene and we have a really special thing that will pop up right at the same time as the show. If really just keep coming on Wednesday at seven, right, I mean, yeah, we will have content to playing right. Yes. So now, Lisa, we have what last question for you? Okay, and it is this. God, I could think of so many last questions. I would have to say I we haven't even more of it. Yeah, less. It would bleep me if I asked them, but I won't. Sadly we don't have a bleeper. Oh No, okay, here it is. It's an easy one. What were the values around reading and writing when you were growing up? What did mother Mary Tell You about reading? Do you know what my...

...mother told me about reading? My mother told Me Stop. Reading will ruin your eyes. I love my parents so much and they were wonderful to me because they made me feel like I was the best thing since iice bread. But there was not a single book in our house. We did not. It wasn't until I got to a library that I started to read for pleasure. and My mother's still was like worried about my eyes and I'm really nearsighted. So but I'm happily in your side because I love books. So that's the rule. I mean, that's the real truth. I mean, and I think I'm glad you ask because honestly, not everybody, even though I got out so much love in my house, not everybody grows up having the reading encouraged by the parents and they just don't turn. That's why the library was so big for me, and I just have a lifelong love of reading that was encouraged by librarians and by school and and you know, towards the end of her life my mother started reading and I was like say, it's not so bad, Mo yeah, you influenced her. That's awesome, all right, Matway, she told me to curse and I told her to read a work. That guy, getty. Lisa, you're amazing. Thank you so much for spending time with us. You Inspire us, you give us writing tips, make us laugh. You are we just love you. So, before you go, can you tell everyone where to find you? Your new book, your tour, all of that. Tell everyone where to find you? Oh my God, I'm not even sure. Well, I'm virtual, so it's all virtual, so that if they go to Scottolingecom they'll be a schedule there and they can see it. We come to some of the events, awesome in their chair and they can you see I'll be attending and they can see you on Lisa alive right doing these fun Lisa lives. I don't know what that is. So only a live, all right. Oh, all right, on Monday night. I don't know, I don't remember. Just go to the beside you. Right, that's right. We're wearing your first communion. Bail as far as I did. Don't tell me through it away. All right, Lisa, get you, guys. I love you, guys, and Christy, best of luck. I will be reading the book. I can't wait. Will you too? Excited? And you know I love all you and I appreciate you so much and I appreciate having you know that you have me on. I really do appreciate it. They love you too. We love you. Thanks for come. I think, Bra they will, but by guys. Oh all right, one more thing before we go. A couple more things before we go. If you're not hanging out with us yet in the friends and Fiction Official Book Club, you are missing out. We say it every week, but we want you to join. It's a lot of fun. The group, which is separate from US and is run by our friends Lisa Harrison and Brenda Gardner, is now more than elevenzero strong. They just had Christina Lauren on earlier this week, last no Monday night. I'm so mixed up the every day's running together. It was fantastic. And then on April Eighteen Christie will be on talking about the wedding veil, and one of the great things about the book club is that after the first half hour they did they have spoilers. So it's one of the few places you can go where you can actually find out things that aren't talked about in most virtual conversations online. So please join that group. Please read the wedding bail and then show up for all the secrets on April leaguteen. All right, everyone, thank you so much for coming don't forget to come back next week, same time, same place, to celebrate our Christie with the launch of the wedding bail night. Everyone good. Thank you for tuning in. You can join us every week on facebook or Youtube, where our live show airs on Wednesday nights at seven PM eastern time. Also, subscribe to our podcast and follow us on instagram. We're so glad you're here.

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