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Friends and Fiction with Robyn Carr

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Award winning #1 New York Times bestselling author of more than 60 novels, Robyn Carr joins the Fab Five to talk about her career and the latest installment in her Virgin River series, which has been adapted as a Netflix Original Series. https://www.robyncarr.com

Welcome to friends and fiction. Fivebest selling authors Endless Stories, Friends and Fiction is a podcast withfive bestselling novelist whose common love of reading, writing an independentbookstores found them together with jets, author interviews and fascinatinginsider talk about publishing and writing. Thes friends discuss the booksthey've written, the books they're reading now and the art of storytelling.If you love books and you're curious about the writing world, you're in theright place. Bestselling novelist Mary Kay Andrews, Christine Harmel, ChristieWoodson, Harvey Patty Callahan, Henry and Mary Alice Munro are five longtimefriends with more than 80 published books. To their credit at the Start of the Pandemic, they gottogether for a virtual happy hour to talk about their books, their favoritebookstores writing, reading and publishing in this new, unchartedterritory. They're still talking, and they've added fascinating discussionswith other bestselling novelists, so join them live on their friends andfiction Facebook Group page every Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern, or listenand view later at your leisure. Hi everybody. Good evening and welcomedifference and fix them five best selling authors and what stories? I'mChristi Woodson, Harvey and I'll be your host tonight and my forthcomingnovel is Under the Southern Sky Releasing April 20th Hi, I am PaddyCallaghan, Henry. And my next novel is surviving Savannah and it comes out onMarch 9th of 2021. Hello, E Andrews And the newcomer will be out may 4th 2021.I'm a gun morality ithe hardest part press Really a e. And I'm so glad tosay hello to you all. And I have a book coming out on May 11th called This TheSummer of Lost in Power E I'm whatever. Some books, some books coming out. I'mChristine Harmel and my next novel, The Forest Add Vanishing stars comes outJuly 6th 2021. Okay, well, we are so thrilled towelcome the incredible Robin card tonight. But first, we have a veryexciting celebration tonight for the cover of Mary. Alice is brand new andvery first right Middle grade novel theory. Islanders. So, Erica, can youshare the cover for us? Is it? I love it. Of course it hurdles. I am sothrilled there behind me. Now I can move so you can see it on that.Remember the other title because I'm thinking that Islanders today I'm soexcited is my first middle grade book, and it's written with my friend andcolleague Angela May. And it's the story of an 11 year old boy, Jake, whois compelled, forced to live on a tiny little island, an actual bird sanctuarycalled Dewey's Island off Isle of Palms. And it doesn't have any roads. Itdoesn't have any cars. It doesn't have any restaurants or stores. And worst ofall, it doesn't have any WiFi. So he's convinced this is going to be the worstsummer ever, and he meets two kids making and a little girl named Lovey,and they would not have been friends anywhere else except on this remoteisland. And they have all these adventures, and they get into a littletrouble. And he bonds with his grandmother, who's very importantcharacter in the book. And in the end, the magic of the Island shows them thatthey could be very wonderfully happy without being plugged in. And so thisis a wonderful book to share with Children who really do believe in themagic nature, and I'm very excited because if you order it's It's comingout to 15 from the Latin books, and we're very excited about that. And wehave a pre order campaign very excited for if you order tonight through ourbookstore. R. J. Julia, I don't have it with me to get in one of our friendsand fiction cozies, which is a real gem. We all love those but for anyone elseduring the next several weeks while supplies last. If you order to saythank you, you will get a really cute custom sea turtle bookmark, autographbook plates sticker and a special postcard with the cover of the bookthat will be a gateway to a secret giveaway prize. So you'll get that ifyou order it and we hope you will. And...

I'm very excited. Here's the book. Thank you. I'm just Angela and I arejust so thrilled and this is a great age to what a dream come true. Angela E.She and I are really close, and this is a very special book from both of us. Zawesome. Well, thank you for telling us about it. The cover is absolutelybeautiful, and I know everyone is jumping onto pre order right now, eh?So now I'm going to introduce our guests for the week, who really needsno introduction. It's robbing car who I'm sure many of you know and love andhave read. But just in case you don't know her, Robert is the Rita Awardwinning number one New York Times best selling author of almost 60 novels,including the critically acclaimed Virgin River. Siri's Robin is arecipient of the Romance Writers of America. Nora Roberts LifetimeAchievement Award In 2016 and 2017, Virgin River was named one of theHarperCollins 200 iconic books of the past 200 years. And as many of youprobably know, because you're watching right now, Netflix has adapted herVirgin River Siris for TV. Robin has fallen in love with the beautifulNevada desert, an unrivaled spectacle of Las Vegas. Her she resides, herChildren are grown. Her son is an orthopedic surgeon. Her daughter ofpolice captain and Robin says that in addition, Thio reading her novels andmaking snide remarks about how she's used family scenarios to her advantage,they have made her very happy grandmother. So welcome. Robin. Robin.Hi. Where's your happy you're here. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.This is the big time. You're in the big time. You brought the big time here.Yeah, you like well, and you all know that every week we love to feature abookstore. And so this week, we have chosen Robin has chosen a favorite ofhers and many of ours. R. J. Julia Roxanne Cody's bookstore names for herpaternal grandfather and located in the shoreline town of Madison, Conn. Is aplace of discovery where words matter where writer meets reader, where theambience and book selection create a welcoming atmosphere and where Roxanneand her team are fiercely committed to putting the right book in the righthands. So this week they're offering 10% off of the code friends 10 on booksby our Amazing Guest Driving Car and by the five friends and fiction hosts. And,of course, you can preorder Mary Alice is the Islanders. The link can be foundon our friends and fiction Facebook page and also just want to remindeveryone that shortly will be taking live questions for Robbins, who don'tforget to drop your questions in the comments if you have one. Um, so wow,what an amazing week. We had to have Robin here tonight. The five of us werethe Kaya Hoagie Time County Library, virtually last night and a lot of usair on deadline. It sort of felt like a race. And I know with e know whatThanksgiving last week it was a little different for everyone. And, you know,a lot of you know that we started friends and fiction. This sort of takethe place of our book tours. But I really do feel like this group is moreimportant now than it ever has been. Because when we need to be alone forour safety, we still have this incredible group of people to share ourtime with. So I wrote in my newsletter essay this week about the first time Idiscovered that I could here, my author friends, voices and the pages of theirbooks. It's just the best feeling. And so I wanted to ask all of you. Is therean experience you've had after meeting an author being able to hear theirvoice in a book? And is there like a specific book or author that you canremember. And so I thought we would start with our lovely guest, Robin.There absolutely is a person who I recognized both when I hear her voiceand on the page. And that's Kristen Hagen's she more exclamation pointsthan anybody I've ever met in my life. It's so it's so her every page. Oh,she's various on Twitter. I follow her on Twitter. Yeah, he's hilarious. Well,speaking of Kristin's, what about you, Kristen? Um, Christi Honestly, might isyou e. I had blurbed one of your books before you and I actually met, and Ithought it was amazing and wonderful. But then I met you. And when the nexttime I read something you had written, it was a completely differentexperience because I could hear it. Your books are just so accessible andconversational and warm, and I don't think I fully understood until I got toknow you a little bit. That that's you, like, That's just your voice, andyou're its It's the beauty of you. And I could hear just that beautifulSouthern accent. Um, in every one of your books s So it's it's 100% you,your books or some of my very favorites...

...to read because it feels like you'reright there with me. I paid her to say that. So I'll send you your check later.Thank you. Weigh all paid her e Howdy. What about you? Thank you. I actuallyhave I mean, that's happened with all of you. You know, where I read yourbooks and then heard your voice and then loved the book even more. So I metCap Mary Kay Andrews. First we met before my first book even came out andI read every crooked nanny on then Irish eyes. And I could hear her wit inher sarcasm and her just Irish, you know, quick witted, right on the money.But I've had an opposite experience. I was a huge and I am a huge and RiverSiddons fan. And when I finally got to meet my hero in person, she had thissuper really tiny, squeaky voice. She talked about boots and I was soastounded because her books or so, so full bodied, and yet her voice was thislittle tiny voice and she was like, What? What, what? So I actually had theexact opposite experience except with y'all where I met someone and then herword and didn't match. Yeah. Amazing. Alright. Well, Mary Alice, what aboutyou? Well, you know, I was going to say someone s o many, you know, becausewhen you know someone, you can The voice just pops up. But when I heardabout the, um, Nora Roberts Award, I realized that that's a really goodexample of a woman whose voice comes out in different ways with differentbooks. She when she writes her Oh, standard women's fiction novels, justher characters. The women are strong. They have, you know, very determined,uh, personality. And that's very much Nora. When she writes a book about acharacter in Ireland, her love of Ireland comes out. She's softer. She's,um there's just a wit there. And yet when she writes the J. D. Robb Siri's,there's that little bit of a kick ass that Nora has that no prisoners. That'svery, very there. And she's just a natural writer. She's just, you know,just let's go and let's the words flow. And when you hear her voice and youknow and talk to her, you see those are the different sides of this veryunusual strong woman. Interesting. What about you, Mary Kay? You know, I couldremember meeting least Collini, um, years ago on a mystery writers event,and we we've had the same editor twice, a two different houses, and we were ata HarperCollins dinner, and, uh, we sat, Ah, very famous full of himself. Maleauthor sat between us on. Um, we sort of bonded over our, uh, reacting to him,but I can remember saying to her, I read I read one of her, um, Rose Ottoand D'Annunzio novels. And I can remember saying to her, You know, thatwas a pretty racy sex scene you had in that book. What's a nice Italian girllike you doing writing a book like that? And she just laughed and said, Who saidI'm nice s if you know, You know, Lisa, that's that's her. That's all aboutfantastic. Well, and I think we can all agree that we definitely hear Robin andthe pages of her stories. And so we're so excited to have you here tonight. So,Robin, can you tell us a little bit about your newest return to VirginRiver? Well, uh, My readers have been askingme for years to do more. Virgin River. There were 20 books in the Siri's. Putit on pause and there's there's a reason to stop it. It's such a longSiri's that it becomes daunting, and people don't want to even pick up asingle book because, God forbid, they should like it right. Then write a moreso it had gotten ungainly and long. But in that clip, Siri's being so popular.It made sense to do a return to Virgin River and revisit some of the favoritebeloved characters that were anchor characters to the Siri's and had beenaround for a long time. And it was fun to Dio. So, um, so that's the reasonbehind it. It Z It brings in new characters with new problems and newemotional dilemmas. So it's not all old folks. It's all it's some, too. Ireally liked how you did that. I thought that was an interesting way.Thio, you know, expand something that's so beloved for people. But also, youknow, if you haven't read the other 20 books in this series that you could,you know, pick it up and kind of be...

...starting fresh also. So it's very welldone. We all have a question to ask you. And I think Mary Kay, do you want tostart? Yeah. You know, Robin, one of the things we found interesting aftertalking to we've done I don't know, 37 of these shows and talking to alldifferent authors from all different walks of life and ah, lot of themourselves included, have encountered somebody along the way who told us thatwe weren't good enough and that way and that we weren't gonna make it on myrented, that you had a similar experience. And I wonder if you tell usabout that and talk to me. Talk about how you made the decision. Thiopersevere despite the naysayers. Well, did you only have one person to tellyou? E found one on every corner e starting with the high school counselorwho said you're just not college material? Yeah, I had thio. Not onlydid I have people did I had enough rejections to paper the walls as wellon DNA. Not only that, but I sold my first book in 78 I had my first bestseller in 2000 and eight Do the math. It took me Z. That's incredible. See,that's so incredible. Because to me, Urano overnight sensation, right? Yeah,having old station. But that's incredible, like you're such ahousehold name. And that's such an inspiration, though, to think exactly.You just kept plugging, plugging away at it for years that there wassomething I had to make peace with, didn't make much money. Every once in awhile, I made a little money, but it was my goal to make a much money as myhusband's secretary. E couldn't learn assed much as a tenured teacher, youknow, and and And I remember saying to my agent once, if I could just make$100,000 a year And she said, Remarkable, leave the the hardestnumber to get. There's like no middle class in the writing business. You'reeither starving or you're doing great, you know. So I make my peace with thebest seller list and say, Why am I doing this? Am I doing this to be richand famous, or am I doing this for a deeper, more intrinsic reason? And thefact is, I write because I love to write its work. I love and I'm good atit. Good for you that's truly like that. Very inspiring, because I think peoplethink that authors automatically rich, which is not true on all the years thatyou just wrote because you knew you had to and loved it is really what it's allabout. So I'm so glad you said that. Rabbit, can I kiss credits outsatisfaction. And plus, the wardrobe is very cheap. You consider spaghettiduring the middle of the day, You know, you could run downstairs. Robin, do youthink they made a better writer out of you? Because because you were kind ofdoing it for the right reasons, not the fame and fortune and because it was notever a guarantee. Do you think that made strong e make you a better writer?And the reason I think it does is because you find yourself writing thebooks you want to read. Yeah, writing books that are popular this season. EIf I tried to write a vampire books because they're selling well, it justwould not work. There would be a falseness about. It s so true. So true.That's a great point. Well, Patty, do you have a question for Rahman? I dio while I'm still basking and thethings you just said, because that's amazing and so true, because every oncein a while we have to tap back to the real reason we're doing it. And thispandemic is on that to tapping back. Why are we doing it? Why are we doingit? But every week we're so interested in the lives of our writer friends, notjust in the books they write, and we love hearing about and with each otherabout what life was like before we were writers. So we have a question we loveto ask every week. So, Robin, what were the values around reading and writingin your house growing up? And how do they? How do you think they influencedthe writer you are today? Well, that's interesting, because I did not grow upin a household where books were important. My grandmother I used totake me to the Public Library on that...

...was fascinating and wonderful, and Iwould check out books and sometimes big books, big books, you know, that that Iwould never in a million years read, but just the idea of having great big,great big books that felt so powerful. Um, but my my parents didn't like myfather read Louis Limor paperbacks. I remember. My goodness, rarely. You know,it wasn't there wasn't a book on every bedside table, and I didn't reallystart reading for pleasure until I was a young wife. I read a few books inhigh school and college. I remember we passed around love story in collegefrom room to room to room in the dorm, and then we call it crime. Uh, but Ididn't really start reading voraciously until I was a young mother, uh,pregnant mother with fat ankles and laid back on the phone booth under myankles and, you know, and reading. And my neighbor used to bring me books fromthe My husband was in the military, So books from the, um um the BX and theywere paperbacks. But there was not much of a mass market industry yet, and sothey were paperback reprints of classic novels. And so I got my real teeth on.And you, Seton and Rosemary Holly Jarman on some of the classichistorical romance. Novelists. Yeah, what happened with Mary Rogers andKathleen would weigh on the place. Exploded way all of a sudden, had amass market paperback industry. E think What's fascinating? Not only is it inyour answer that maybe it wasn't your parents, I'm telling you, I bet if welined up 100 authors, 99 of us would say we spend a lot of time in thelibrary that libraries were a big part of our formative years because there'ssomething about a library that it's almost like we absorb the magic ofstorytelling and know how important it is. So even if it wasn't in your home,you were in that library, I think that's fascinating. Uh huh. That is it,really, really is. That's a great And I think it's so interesting to that. Youknow, you would expect that every author would say, Oh, yes, it is veryimportant, but that hasn't been our experience had lots of authors come onhere and say we didn't read my parents, and you know, that wasn't a big dealfor us. So very interesting. And, well, Mary Alice, do you have a question forRobin. Well, we're switching to television. As a matter of fact, withSegway. Um, I have to say, I loved the Siri's, the Virgin River Siri's andI've been watching it with my sister breathing, and we were waiting withbated breath for the next season on. And as I said to your earlier after theshow tonight, we're gonna go downstairs and continue watching it so great. Buthaving read the books as well as watching the show a big fan, I donotice there's a difference between the storyline in your books and thestoryline in the TV series. So I'm curious, you know, as unauthorized. Areyou involved with the writing of the Siri's? And if you are or are not, howdo you feel about the way it veers off? Well, first of all, I knew that therewould be major changes. And if you when you're reading a book, all you have todo is just stop for a second and think about all that internal dialogue, allthat description, all of that aspiration, all of that stuff, you know,you have no place for any of that in film. So right there there's gonna bean enormous change. The other thing is, when all you have is a set and dialogueand action, you're gonna see a lot more action than you will in the in thenovel. But, no, I was not involved in the writing. I did have the show Runnerand and Scriptwriters called once in a while and asked for my opinion, and Ireally tried to stay out of it on. The reason is I don't write movies. I writebook it. Given an opportunity, I could really screw up a good movie. You know,that's really interesting. It's true. They it is really unusual for an authorto get her hands mixed into the script. I think a lot of the directors andwriters, and rather you just didn't so...

I think that's right. They'd rather youjust didn't because really, really, we don't know. I don't know what I'm doing.I'm filled with opinions and I have even written screenplays. Terriblescreenplay, another world. But But you know, I I think that it's easy to sayto voice your opinion, and I'm seeing lots of it on Facebook these days thatstrong opinions about the Siri's uh but it really good for it. They know what'sgood for movies. They make movies. Yeah, I said, It's so true that, um, you know,when I hear someone say, Oh, that you know, we prefer the book or the movieor whatever. It's often that it's a different medium. You can't go into thedetail of a book on A on a TV Siri's, especially because of the limited timeon guy. Actually there the books are great and the Siri's air greats Youshould be very pleased. It's two. For the price of one. You'll probably get abig kick out of the Siri's. And if you love the Siri's, the books will giveyou a little more exactly there. You guys well said, Well said Christian, doyou have a question? You like to ask Robin? You know, Robin, So you addressso many difficult topics in your novels. Domestic violence, post traumaticstress disorder, workplace burnout, miscarriage just I mean, the list goeson. So do you have when you set out to write, Do you have a topic like that inmind? Or do they kind of appear naturally? Is the story progresses? Iwould like to say that they appear naturally, but they don't actuallycarefully thought out. In fact, sometimes when I'm when my brain isempty, which it usually is, uh, my editor and I will an agent will bangaround some ideas and say, What haven't we done yet? What woman's issue haven'twe? Haven't we approach your travel? And I did have one male friends say tome, Who's knocking you around? All the women in your story? Your Well, I'msorry. It's It's a very important issue. E perfectly safe, but way do itpurposely and and then what makes it? If you read a Robin Chi romance, therewill probably be social issues in In in the book. And if you read a Robin CarWomen's Fiction, there will probably be a romance. Okay, a position of romanceand women's issues in all my books. That's wonderful. That's so interesting.Well, I have a question that I'm really dying to ask you to. Professorspublished a paper in the spring 2015 issue of studies and popular culturecalled Envisioning Utopian Possibilities and Robin Cars VirginRiver Romance Novels. So they noted that the Siri's suggests I love. Thissuggests a communal mode of living that contrasts in some important ways withthe rampant individualism of 21st century American society. DepictingVirgin River is a believable community that prioritizes friendship. Sharing ofresource is and social solidarity above individual achievement and consumerism,which I just thought was so fantastically said on Dzyuba commentedin the paper, neighbors were committed to neighbors who automatically cometogether in times of need. So I'm just wondering what inspired you to create acommunity like Virgin River? Is it based on something you know, that youreally lived? Or just something that you wished for? Oh, wished Okay, firstof all, of a city girl on. And I think that's not the first time I've beenaccused of being a socialist, to tell you the truth, but it z it's utopian.And, uh, and the other thing that I love about Virgin River is it Z. It'snot cute, it's tough. It's a really white picket fences, and nobody movesthere to bake cookies for a living. It's really it's a hard nose placewhere where people get in trouble and get and could get hurt and absolutely,and they're very far removed from civilization, so first responders can'tget there easily now. When I went to Humboldt County on a little researchtrip, I had already written most of the first book. And it's of course, it's afabulously beautiful place where they're growing marijuana back in thewoods and it's breathtaking. And I was with a friend and we looked at the mapand saw that from Highway Five, which...

...runs up the middle of the of the stateof California to the coast was, ah, highway ah, 120 miles and we said, Well,good, well, gash over to the coast and have lunch five hours later E right offthe road by lumber trucks, longing nuts. We finally made it Thio coat its's.It's much more rugged and remote than people realize. So what? But what makesstepped on for the writer is it requires something of the characters. Toe live there, and I've heard somelocals stay. If you make it here three months, you'll never leave. Wow, e. It's not E. I mean, there'sjust I mean, you bears in your kitchen sometimes. I mean, it's a tough placewhich doesn't make it so much fun to watch on the Siri's, too. It's sobeautiful. And the directors are very good about showing how how importantthe setting is. E think that was a good job with that? Yes, I agree. Well,thank you so much, Robin, for answering all of our questions. And now we wantedto let you always ask a few questions. So we've pulled some questions from ourFacebook page. And if you're watching now, just a reminder that you can leavelive questions for Robin because we're gonna pull a few in just a minute. ButI did want to tell you first, we have a reader named Claire Thoreson, and shesaid that her husband passed away in February. But she wanted you to knowthat you were his favorite author and he had read almost all of your booksway all our, um Okay. Mary Kay, Would you like to ask the questions? Yeah.Michelle Church says that she finished book one in season one of Virgin River,and she says today I'm gonna start book to how much time has passed from Bookone. Book 19. 0, they're all written in real time. The first three books werepublished in 2000 and seven Emmy and it was 2000 and seven in the books. Whatthe copyright page and you'll see what year those books we're set. Um, she loves the charactersthat you've created, by the way. Uh, Mary Alice, would you like to ask aquestion? I have one from Donna Misson. Rydell? She asked. Are there any moreSullivan's Crossing books coming? And would you write another long Siri'slike Virgin River? Yes, there is another Sullivan'sCrossing, a book coming along as soon as I think of one e don't have an ideawhat it will be about, but, yes, andan other long Siri's. Well, I have to say,um, and writing a syriza's longest Virgin River really turned out to befun. E mean. The hard part is, there's already an established, you know,setting and characters. And the easy part is there's already an establishedsetting. Yeah, good answer. True. So true. Patty, can you pull a livequestion for us, please? Yes, I can, but I'm gonna have to tell you thatanswer you just gave about Sullivan's crossing. Yes, once I know what it'sabout. Sounds like the answer. We've all given an editor. E sure, sure I cando that and then we hang up when I think of it, That or here's a good onefor you My editor said, How's the book coming? And I said, It's comingbeautifully in my head, Yeah, E It's all up here. Oh my God, it's true. Butmaybe laughing. We've all said that exact same thing. So this is really aproposed for the time. This question is from sued Johnson, Sue Johnson, BishopSue. Your name is like a tongue twister, she said. Robin, you have a favoriteChristmas book or movie you must read or see every year. She also saidKristen Higgins is so funny and that we all must go to her crappy friendsblogged. But do you Christmas Booker movie? You must see her read every year.It has become my religion. It's a wonderful life. Itt's It's what I love.And it's what I believe, that the smallest act can change the course ofhistory. A right's one of my favorites. Absolutely, very best. Kristen, couldyou pull a live question for us, please? Marchi? Clavin Montagne would like toknow eso, she says. As someone who...

...hasn't yet read one of Robin's books,Is there one that Robin's suggests to start with? Well, I would say Virgin River fromhere, if you like that, you like them all well, and then let me ask a followup question from Laurie Finnan Bowers, She says, Do we need to read the VirginRiver Siris in order? It's entirely up to you. I tried to write them so thatthey would each stand alone, but it is an ongoing Siri's. If you prefer toread them in order, they're listed and numbered in order on my website.Wonderful. Well, Robin, one of our favorite parts of this show isreceiving a writing tip from our guests, many of our viewers or writers. And ofcourse, we are a swell Andi. I feel like we always walk away feeling likewe've learned something. So no pressure s Would you mind sharing a little bitof your wisdom with us tonight? Well, sure. We actually already talked aboutit. I think it's very important. First of all, that you write every day, everyday, and you have to be willing to write crap because you can always fixit. But if you don't get anything written at all, you're just gettingnowhere. You can't make any progress if you've done nothing. But the otherthing is, I think it's really important. Thio, examine your motives, decide whatsuccess means to you and write the book you most want to read. I'll alwaysmaintained that successes and something that you look back at an entirelifetime to see whether it was there. I think it comes in minutes and seconds.Um, and if you take if you look at it in small doses, you'll find what drivesyou. Right. Can you remember the first time that you woke up and thought I'msuccessful? No, I know. I mean, I've been shockedby a few things. My first time on me the seller list. I was, I think, atnumber 32 on the New York Times extended list. And I thought, Well,good there. Now I can die happy woman. I'm e had no idea what was coming. Ihave a number one e. Unbelievable. Do you keep moving the goal post? Get No,I'm not. No, I'm not. In fact, I rarely e rarely celebrate. It's not. It's justthat's not the important part e don't want. I don't want success or a certainamount of money or ah, certain level of fame to be what drives me. That's notwhat drives me. I need to write a really good book. That's hard enough.Yeah, absolutely. That's a really great answer on that is so true because Ithink we're always you know, you always think that getting that next thing isgoing to be the moment when you're like I did it and then you get it. Yeah, that's not the point. And thenyou go up in the page and the next day anyway, no matter what. True, that'strue. That blank page did not care that you hit number one E because there wasno man. E. Don't think that's the only reason I e. You know, definitely Do notdefinitely do not Robin. Our readers love hearing what our guest authors orreading. So do you have any recommendations of something thatyou've read lately that you've really enjoyed? You know, one of yourquestions was what was the last book he raved about a really good friend ofmine, said that she just found out that her granddaughter is on the spectrum,that she has a probably mild case of Asperger's. A real manageable case. AndI said, You need to read the Rosie Project A. Yeah, that book we'll giveyou You'll have so many laughs and give you such insight into what it's like.Tips have Asperger's e raved about and it's I write it years ago and I was soimpressed and I thought it was so fun. That's that's awesome. Well, Patty, Ithink you have that. You, I just wanted to interject, go hand in hand with thatis the curious incident of the dog at...

...midnight that is such a brilliant bookto put you into the head of the child who has Asperger's. Have not read thate. They have a problem. Back. Play a bit too. Wow. One day, maybe we'll beable to get Maybe we'll go back. Thio Patty, I think you had a bookrecommendation. I do, but I wanted to say Robin really quick. It's amazingthat when we want to recommend something to somebody about their reallife, we recommend fiction because that's where we find the truth. Rightway Don't recommend, you know. Anyway, um, yes, I wanted to tell you all about,and I left it in the kitchen because I'm reading it. I wanted to tell youabout how wonderful on how excited we are. I'm reading Susan Mallory's newChristmas book, and it is We're reading to Christie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah,Hold it up. Because I left it in the kitchen where I'm reading because theman upstairs Yeah, we are. Susan is going to be on the show in about a weekand a half, but it iss such a feel good. You think you're going to read for aminute, and all of a sudden you're halfway through the book. It is such agood book. So I just I wanted to mention that I'm sorry. I think it'snot my bedside way. It's fun when we all read the same thing at the sametime. Does anybody else have a book that they wanted to recommend tonight?Um, I am just getting into the woman with the Blue Star. This is an exampleof our friend Pam Jenoff up here. Jealous, um, comes out May 4th e Pam'sa great friend and she writes amazing historic fiction. And this one again isset during World War Two. So I can't wait to dig into that. Yeah, Anybodyelse have one? Well, I just finished a match made at Christmas by CourtneyWalsh. And if you're looking for just, like, another great feel good Christmasbook, it is so wonderful. I read it just like that, actually put it in theFacebook group the other day. It's really well written. It's so charming.And the premises so great. So if you you know our into Christmas books, youshould definitely check it out. Um, Well, thank you. Okay, Now, we do havea few announcements, but we have one more question for Robin at the end tomake sure that you stick around. Um, and Mary Kay. Can you remind us aboutour bookseller, please? Yes. Um, this week R J. Julia is offering 10% withthe code friends 10 on books by Robin Car and by the five of us. And the linkcan be found on our friends and fiction Facebook page. Yes. And the store is ina gorgeous little town in Madison, Connecticut. I was there years ago, andit's such a charming place. And so we hope that you guys will all be moved.Thio. Do what we love to do, which is to do business with. Give your businessto independent booksellers. They need it. Absolutely. Yeah. Now, Kristen, youhave some exciting news to share with us, I think. Yeah. So speaking ofindependent booksellers, we are thrilled to tell you about friends andfiction First, which is a subscription box we're doing in partnership withOxford Exchange and Indie Bookstore in Tampa. So it's a really cool deal. Sofor $150 which includes shipping and tax, you get all five of the friendsand fiction authors new 2021 books the week they're released, which will bebetween March and July of 2021. On every single one of those books will bean autographed first edition. Plus you'll get a tote bag. Plus, if you'reone of the 1st 200 to order by December 10th, you get this Little Christmasjust came in, and there there's nice so that I thought they say friends and Ididn't know what they're gonna be like e No, I e e Really? Okay, e say that isthe person who had the maid I had this sense of, like, what if they're awful,but e one so badly? They say friends and fiction 2020 the first year. AndMary Alice, if you want one, all you have to do is order the friends andvictims first E But without it, Robin gets one no matter what. So, yeah,we're close to selling out of these were almost took 200 which is awesome.And overall, it's about a 10% savings on the books. Plus, of course, theresigned first editions. So and we love Oxford Exchange. We love supportingIndia's. So they're e. Yeah, I am. Patty, can you tell everyone about ourbrand new foray into YouTube? Yes. So...

...we have been trying to figure outbecause we get so many questions on the page. Where can I watch the past shows?How can I tap into them? So we now not only have a Facebook page, not onlyhave a podcast, not only have a website not only have an instagram but bah boom,we haven't YouTube channel eso it it is on and use that ampersand, friends andfiction. And you We have been loading all the old shows on there that youcould just watch on YouTube. So it there soon and I think we're gonna beWe are streaming live there right now. We're YouTube stars were phenomenal wayalready have, like tens of followers. Way E. Thomas. It was your mom, ourfirst follower tell with Mom was a second and my mom was the second. Andyou go to the YouTube channel hits grime and you can watch it there or onFacebook. Now Bonnie and Beth got on the phone with their friends and said,Please go fall e think half our members from Bonnie and back. All right, MaryAlice, I'm so excited about next week's show. We've all been so looking forwardto it. Can you please tell us who our guests way are? It's very exciting. Andit's also serendipity that I'm introducing next week's guest whilewe're talking about Robin's experience with television. And that's our themefor December 9th. We are so thrilled to have ah, favorite of the importantartist Andie MacDowell. We love her, and I know most of you love her. Whodoesn't love Andie MacDowell and Andy when she brought out my book BeachHouse to television? Um, she was also not just the actress, but a producer.And so it's going to be interesting to hear her take on that. And speaking ofa producer, were also having the renowned producer Todd Karma. Nikki.And you may not know his name, but, you know, one of his movies. It's afavorite at Christmas time. Elf. I know you're all going. What? Yes, really?It's him. So this will be a very, very special, expanded program for 75minutes because we have these two. Very exciting. Yes, and so you might want tobring two glasses of wine a little half bottle half. Okay, well, that is gonnabe so great. We'll have to go watch the beach house and watch out again inpreparation for the show. Right now. Robin, we have thank you for beingpatient through all of our many, many announcements. Um, but we have one lastquestion for you. Glenda White wants to know if you're going to write any morebooks in the Thunder Point. Siri's. I don't plan Thio, I got to the end of,uh I got to the ninth book, and it looked to me like all of thesignificant characters in that town were taken care off, and they were allin a really good place. Now, I know you can roll somebody into town in there intheir station way and and have them break down in front of the bar, andeverybody could change. But that's a really good idea. I write a book aboutthat. I think that I think that that z that's really region, I think. I mean,if I were reading that, I would say she should have fought harder and longer.Uh, my answer is no, I don't plan to. Unless something happens, you know, youmight have a dream and all that might change. All right, well, we cannotthank you enough, Robin, for being our guest tonight. You were amazing. And Iknow I speak for all of us. Might say we're so glad that we got to know you alittle bit better. And you were just a fantastic guest. Please come back. Itwas a pleasure I would love toe. Well, e no, after the show, I'm watchingVirgin River with thing. Well, this is your last reminder to check out returnto Virgin River. Um, if you want to show the book cover one more time,Erica, if you've got that But we're just so thrilled that all of you arehere making our holiday season bright. And we're so grateful for thiscommunity now more than ever. So keep tuning in on Wednesday nights for tonsof fun Lots of laughter in a big dose of holiday cheer and pre order theIslanders a rap Goodnight, everybody A...

...so great to meet you Think rare mood tonight Think Meg couldpop on med? Can you, Erica? Can you pop Meghan e Think she should be on herafter she e She's like unless she doesn't want to be She might not be edidn't know that I was going to be on camera. I would have on no maker. Thatwas so much fun. She was great. It was fantastic. Her advice was so on themoney and so sharp, You know, it was just No, no holds bar. You wanna telleveryone who make us? I was just gonna say anything I was saying from ErosFinished. So for those of you who hear us, talk about Meg all the time, thisis Meg Walker. She is there managing director. But she's actually just theguru that keeps us for coming off the rails, which might not help tonight,but usually it does on. And she is, um, also a really dear friend. But shekeeps us together. She's behind the scenes, getting us together, so yeah,thank goodness it's not really the Fab Five. It's like this silly six orsomething, right? It takes a Giorgio women, you know, um, we'll add Sean in.Shawn's usually are behind the scenes guy, and we could be the sexy sevenwith celebrating his 40th birthday, right with celebrate their 40thbirthday with. But that's a rock star. So that's true. I want more thananything that I had thought Thio bring his music video tonight and share thatnot you guys. Next week we're gonna have a birthday celebration for Seanand share his viral video because it's it's incredible. You guys, your holidaywill be made e don't know. Kind of a big way. Remember, though, What do youguys doing this weekend watching Virgin River. Benji? Yeah. You're actuallywhat do you have? Our Yeah. I'm trying to remember that it's Christmas seasonand I'll try to decorate. I'm gonna buy Christmas pajamas for everybody. I loveto do that. You know, the sillier the better I bought on thanks for Thanksgivingnight. I bought the three of us in our family Make Mickey Christmas PJ's. ButI e of course, right. But I neglected to consider the fact that they wereflannel. And on Thanksgiving night, it was like 80 degrees here. So we wereall, like, sweating before way e m I'm gonna take, um My son Andrew textedthat he was gonna put up a Christmas tree in his house this year. And so hesaid you got you got any spare Christmas decorations? And of course heknew that I have bins and bins and bins full of Christmas crap. So I'm gonnaload up the sled and take down there, and then I'm going, We're going to tiebe for the weekend, but yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back home Monday.Christie, what way have our flotilla here this weekend? So, like our littlebit parade, which we're still doing. I think it's much smaller, but I mean,everyone's on the water in their own boat. So it za pretty sociallydistanced Safe activity. Um, our son really wanted to be in the flotilla,but e think it's gonna be cold this weekend, so I just really couldn't doit. But they were gonna watch that. And that's always really fun. Somebody eYeah. Oh, I do have to say, I'm going up Thio north. Maybe the North CarolinaJust where you are. Christie Woodson, Harvey. But it's Cindy Boils Birthday,who's a good friend of mine. And she always has really good wine. So drinkreally good and happy birthday, Cindy, I know you're going to the attic toe.Bring down the Christmas. I'm going to the attic. So it's gonna be this grandadventure on E and climb the stairs and bring down to bend it right becausehe's had two hip replacements to me. Need two knee replacements. Um, and I'mgoing to say over and over. It's December, Patty, it's December. It isjust because what is time? What is...

...money? What we're doing? Yeah, e don'tknow. I'm gonna listen to Robin Car and right in the morning before I love mycar. E was so inspired by I had no idea that it had taken her so long to becomea best selling author and and that was such an inspiration. I mean, e thinkit's a good thing to remember that success is kind of what we make it.Andi, that if your heart's in the right place E the right things kind of comealong eventually, I don't know. I was I was just very moved and inspired tohear that, but also to hear her perspective on it. And that's why Iasked that all of that question. I think it probably did make her, Ah,better writer and a stronger writer. I may be a stronger person, too. I mean,I think there's something to be said for having to keep climbing that ladder,you know, and all these years to find out that she one of my favorite editors,was that Martha, my very first editor, she she was the one I did the beachhouse with, and to know that she had the same editor, and all these years Ihad no idea. So it zig goes way back. It does. Yeah, she was She was great.And she's very unassuming and very humble. Like for someone who has won somany awards and done so many incredible things, she was very like, Don't. Yeah,well, guess what? We all have to fade every day. You know, you re pink thatPatty, you froze for a second. I hate when I freeze. Um, we all have to facethe same blank page every day. Way have to face it. You can have as muchsuccess as you want, but when you sit down at that computer, you still havethat blank page. So my dogs with E what was happening? A where is you know what?One of the things I thought with all the guests we've had on is how you cantell that the people with you could just tell people's hearts and theirbooks. If that makes sense and she has such a good heart, you could just tellhim that tonight. And I have the feeling that that's a big part of whyher books resonate so much with people. You know, she puts that heart into herstories. Yeah, that's that's a community is so strong. Yeah. All right.See, a gonna be a blast, everybody. So thanks a Sunday for the bonus. NextSunday, next Sunday E a e next Monday. Susan Mallery? Yeah, E for sure. Yeah,that son panic. What did I not dio not Andy And, uh and God, that will be adegree. That is on Wednesday that terrible that terror when you wake upand go Oh, my God. I think I double booked myself. Yes, yes. Awful. Or oh,my God. Should I forget last night? Whatever. I always just especially nowbecause we're not on the red. We're not anywhere. So I'm, like, shape to ourdays, You know? It's not like, Yeah, yeah, it's just that they lose thatyoga pants and carbs. Yeah, I a e a There's something like, Yeah, go, goPants and carbs. Okay, That should be our new coffee mug. E sweet time byeverybody. You've been listening to the friendsand fiction podcast. Be sure to subscribe to the friends and fictionpodcast wherever you listen. And if you're enjoying it, leave a review. Youcan find the friends and fiction authors at www dot friends and fictiondot com. A Swell as on the Facebook group page. Friends and fiction comeback soon. Okay? There are still lots of books, writing tips, interviews,publishing views and bookstores to chat about goodbye.

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