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Friends and Fiction with Robyn Carr

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Award winning #1 New York Times bestselling author of more than 60 novels, Robyn Carr joins the Fab Five to talk about her career and the latest installment in her Virgin River series, which has been adapted as a Netflix Original Series. https://www.robyncarr.com

Welcome to friends and fiction. Five best selling authors Endless Stories, Friends and Fiction is a podcast with five bestselling novelist whose common love of reading, writing an independent bookstores found them together with jets, author interviews and fascinating insider talk about publishing and writing. Thes friends discuss the books they've written, the books they're reading now and the art of storytelling. If you love books and you're curious about the writing world, you're in the right place. Bestselling novelist Mary Kay Andrews, Christine Harmel, Christie Woodson, Harvey Patty Callahan, Henry and Mary Alice Munro are five longtime friends with more than 80 published books. To their credit at the Start of the Pandemic, they got together for a virtual happy hour to talk about their books, their favorite bookstores writing, reading and publishing in this new, uncharted territory. They're still talking, and they've added fascinating discussions with other bestselling novelists, so join them live on their friends and fiction Facebook Group page every Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern, or listen and view later at your leisure. Hi everybody. Good evening and welcome difference and fix them five best selling authors and what stories? I'm Christi Woodson, Harvey and I'll be your host tonight and my forthcoming novel is Under the Southern Sky Releasing April 20th Hi, I am Paddy Callaghan, Henry. And my next novel is surviving Savannah and it comes out on March 9th of 2021. Hello, E Andrews And the newcomer will be out may 4th 2021. I'm a gun morality ithe hardest part press Really a e. And I'm so glad to say hello to you all. And I have a book coming out on May 11th called This The Summer of Lost in Power E I'm whatever. Some books, some books coming out. I'm Christine Harmel and my next novel, The Forest Add Vanishing stars comes out July 6th 2021. Okay, well, we are so thrilled to welcome the incredible Robin card tonight. But first, we have a very exciting celebration tonight for the cover of Mary. Alice is brand new and very first right Middle grade novel theory. Islanders. So, Erica, can you share the cover for us? Is it? I love it. Of course it hurdles. I am so thrilled there behind me. Now I can move so you can see it on that. Remember the other title because I'm thinking that Islanders today I'm so excited is my first middle grade book, and it's written with my friend and colleague Angela May. And it's the story of an 11 year old boy, Jake, who is compelled, forced to live on a tiny little island, an actual bird sanctuary called Dewey's Island off Isle of Palms. And it doesn't have any roads. It doesn't have any cars. It doesn't have any restaurants or stores. And worst of all, it doesn't have any WiFi. So he's convinced this is going to be the worst summer ever, and he meets two kids making and a little girl named Lovey, and they would not have been friends anywhere else except on this remote island. And they have all these adventures, and they get into a little trouble. And he bonds with his grandmother, who's very important character in the book. And in the end, the magic of the Island shows them that they could be very wonderfully happy without being plugged in. And so this is a wonderful book to share with Children who really do believe in the magic nature, and I'm very excited because if you order it's It's coming out to 15 from the Latin books, and we're very excited about that. And we have a pre order campaign very excited for if you order tonight through our bookstore. R. J. Julia, I don't have it with me to get in one of our friends and fiction cozies, which is a real gem. We all love those but for anyone else during the next several weeks while supplies last. If you order to say thank you, you will get a really cute custom sea turtle bookmark, autograph book plates sticker and a special postcard with the cover of the book that will be a gateway to a secret giveaway prize. So you'll get that if you order it and we hope you will. And...

I'm very excited. Here's the book. Thank you. I'm just Angela and I are just so thrilled and this is a great age to what a dream come true. Angela E. She and I are really close, and this is a very special book from both of us. Z awesome. Well, thank you for telling us about it. The cover is absolutely beautiful, and I know everyone is jumping onto pre order right now, eh? So now I'm going to introduce our guests for the week, who really needs no introduction. It's robbing car who I'm sure many of you know and love and have read. But just in case you don't know her, Robert is the Rita Award winning number one New York Times best selling author of almost 60 novels, including the critically acclaimed Virgin River. Siri's Robin is a recipient of the Romance Writers of America. Nora Roberts Lifetime Achievement Award In 2016 and 2017, Virgin River was named one of the HarperCollins 200 iconic books of the past 200 years. And as many of you probably know, because you're watching right now, Netflix has adapted her Virgin River Siris for TV. Robin has fallen in love with the beautiful Nevada desert, an unrivaled spectacle of Las Vegas. Her she resides, her Children are grown. Her son is an orthopedic surgeon. Her daughter of police captain and Robin says that in addition, Thio reading her novels and making snide remarks about how she's used family scenarios to her advantage, they have made her very happy grandmother. So welcome. Robin. Robin. Hi. Where's your happy you're here. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. This is the big time. You're in the big time. You brought the big time here. Yeah, you like well, and you all know that every week we love to feature a bookstore. And so this week, we have chosen Robin has chosen a favorite of hers and many of ours. R. J. Julia Roxanne Cody's bookstore names for her paternal grandfather and located in the shoreline town of Madison, Conn. Is a place of discovery where words matter where writer meets reader, where the ambience and book selection create a welcoming atmosphere and where Roxanne and her team are fiercely committed to putting the right book in the right hands. So this week they're offering 10% off of the code friends 10 on books by our Amazing Guest Driving Car and by the five friends and fiction hosts. And, of course, you can preorder Mary Alice is the Islanders. The link can be found on our friends and fiction Facebook page and also just want to remind everyone that shortly will be taking live questions for Robbins, who don't forget to drop your questions in the comments if you have one. Um, so wow, what an amazing week. We had to have Robin here tonight. The five of us were the Kaya Hoagie Time County Library, virtually last night and a lot of us air on deadline. It sort of felt like a race. And I know with e know what Thanksgiving last week it was a little different for everyone. And, you know, a lot of you know that we started friends and fiction. This sort of take the place of our book tours. But I really do feel like this group is more important now than it ever has been. Because when we need to be alone for our safety, we still have this incredible group of people to share our time with. So I wrote in my newsletter essay this week about the first time I discovered that I could here, my author friends, voices and the pages of their books. It's just the best feeling. And so I wanted to ask all of you. Is there an experience you've had after meeting an author being able to hear their voice in a book? And is there like a specific book or author that you can remember. And so I thought we would start with our lovely guest, Robin. There absolutely is a person who I recognized both when I hear her voice and on the page. And that's Kristen Hagen's she more exclamation points than anybody I've ever met in my life. It's so it's so her every page. Oh, she's various on Twitter. I follow her on Twitter. Yeah, he's hilarious. Well, speaking of Kristin's, what about you, Kristen? Um, Christi Honestly, might is you e. I had blurbed one of your books before you and I actually met, and I thought it was amazing and wonderful. But then I met you. And when the next time I read something you had written, it was a completely different experience because I could hear it. Your books are just so accessible and conversational and warm, and I don't think I fully understood until I got to know you a little bit. That that's you, like, That's just your voice, and you're its It's the beauty of you. And I could hear just that beautiful Southern accent. Um, in every one of your books s So it's it's 100% you, your books or some of my very favorites...

...to read because it feels like you're right there with me. I paid her to say that. So I'll send you your check later. Thank you. Weigh all paid her e Howdy. What about you? Thank you. I actually have I mean, that's happened with all of you. You know, where I read your books and then heard your voice and then loved the book even more. So I met Cap Mary Kay Andrews. First we met before my first book even came out and I read every crooked nanny on then Irish eyes. And I could hear her wit in her sarcasm and her just Irish, you know, quick witted, right on the money. But I've had an opposite experience. I was a huge and I am a huge and River Siddons fan. And when I finally got to meet my hero in person, she had this super really tiny, squeaky voice. She talked about boots and I was so astounded because her books or so, so full bodied, and yet her voice was this little tiny voice and she was like, What? What, what? So I actually had the exact opposite experience except with y'all where I met someone and then her word and didn't match. Yeah. Amazing. Alright. Well, Mary Alice, what about you? Well, you know, I was going to say someone s o many, you know, because when you know someone, you can The voice just pops up. But when I heard about the, um, Nora Roberts Award, I realized that that's a really good example of a woman whose voice comes out in different ways with different books. She when she writes her Oh, standard women's fiction novels, just her characters. The women are strong. They have, you know, very determined, uh, personality. And that's very much Nora. When she writes a book about a character in Ireland, her love of Ireland comes out. She's softer. She's, um there's just a wit there. And yet when she writes the J. D. Robb Siri's, there's that little bit of a kick ass that Nora has that no prisoners. That's very, very there. And she's just a natural writer. She's just, you know, just let's go and let's the words flow. And when you hear her voice and you know and talk to her, you see those are the different sides of this very unusual strong woman. Interesting. What about you, Mary Kay? You know, I could remember meeting least Collini, um, years ago on a mystery writers event, and we we've had the same editor twice, a two different houses, and we were at a HarperCollins dinner, and, uh, we sat, Ah, very famous full of himself. Male author sat between us on. Um, we sort of bonded over our, uh, reacting to him, but I can remember saying to her, I read I read one of her, um, Rose Otto and D'Annunzio novels. And I can remember saying to her, You know, that was a pretty racy sex scene you had in that book. What's a nice Italian girl like you doing writing a book like that? And she just laughed and said, Who said I'm nice s if you know, You know, Lisa, that's that's her. That's all about fantastic. Well, and I think we can all agree that we definitely hear Robin and the pages of her stories. And so we're so excited to have you here tonight. So, Robin, can you tell us a little bit about your newest return to Virgin River? Well, uh, My readers have been asking me for years to do more. Virgin River. There were 20 books in the Siri's. Put it on pause and there's there's a reason to stop it. It's such a long Siri's that it becomes daunting, and people don't want to even pick up a single book because, God forbid, they should like it right. Then write a more so it had gotten ungainly and long. But in that clip, Siri's being so popular. It made sense to do a return to Virgin River and revisit some of the favorite beloved characters that were anchor characters to the Siri's and had been around for a long time. And it was fun to Dio. So, um, so that's the reason behind it. It Z It brings in new characters with new problems and new emotional dilemmas. So it's not all old folks. It's all it's some, too. I really liked how you did that. I thought that was an interesting way. Thio, you know, expand something that's so beloved for people. But also, you know, if you haven't read the other 20 books in this series that you could, you know, pick it up and kind of be...

...starting fresh also. So it's very well done. We all have a question to ask you. And I think Mary Kay, do you want to start? Yeah. You know, Robin, one of the things we found interesting after talking to we've done I don't know, 37 of these shows and talking to all different authors from all different walks of life and ah, lot of them ourselves included, have encountered somebody along the way who told us that we weren't good enough and that way and that we weren't gonna make it on my rented, that you had a similar experience. And I wonder if you tell us about that and talk to me. Talk about how you made the decision. Thio persevere despite the naysayers. Well, did you only have one person to tell you? E found one on every corner e starting with the high school counselor who said you're just not college material? Yeah, I had thio. Not only did I have people did I had enough rejections to paper the walls as well on DNA. Not only that, but I sold my first book in 78 I had my first best seller in 2000 and eight Do the math. It took me Z. That's incredible. See, that's so incredible. Because to me, Urano overnight sensation, right? Yeah, having old station. But that's incredible, like you're such a household name. And that's such an inspiration, though, to think exactly. You just kept plugging, plugging away at it for years that there was something I had to make peace with, didn't make much money. Every once in a while, I made a little money, but it was my goal to make a much money as my husband's secretary. E couldn't learn assed much as a tenured teacher, you know, and and And I remember saying to my agent once, if I could just make $100,000 a year And she said, Remarkable, leave the the hardest number to get. There's like no middle class in the writing business. You're either starving or you're doing great, you know. So I make my peace with the best seller list and say, Why am I doing this? Am I doing this to be rich and famous, or am I doing this for a deeper, more intrinsic reason? And the fact is, I write because I love to write its work. I love and I'm good at it. Good for you that's truly like that. Very inspiring, because I think people think that authors automatically rich, which is not true on all the years that you just wrote because you knew you had to and loved it is really what it's all about. So I'm so glad you said that. Rabbit, can I kiss credits out satisfaction. And plus, the wardrobe is very cheap. You consider spaghetti during the middle of the day, You know, you could run downstairs. Robin, do you think they made a better writer out of you? Because because you were kind of doing it for the right reasons, not the fame and fortune and because it was not ever a guarantee. Do you think that made strong e make you a better writer? And the reason I think it does is because you find yourself writing the books you want to read. Yeah, writing books that are popular this season. E If I tried to write a vampire books because they're selling well, it just would not work. There would be a falseness about. It s so true. So true. That's a great point. Well, Patty, do you have a question for Rahman? I dio while I'm still basking and the things you just said, because that's amazing and so true, because every once in a while we have to tap back to the real reason we're doing it. And this pandemic is on that to tapping back. Why are we doing it? Why are we doing it? But every week we're so interested in the lives of our writer friends, not just in the books they write, and we love hearing about and with each other about what life was like before we were writers. So we have a question we love to ask every week. So, Robin, what were the values around reading and writing in your house growing up? And how do they? How do you think they influenced the writer you are today? Well, that's interesting, because I did not grow up in a household where books were important. My grandmother I used to take me to the Public Library on that...

...was fascinating and wonderful, and I would check out books and sometimes big books, big books, you know, that that I would never in a million years read, but just the idea of having great big, great big books that felt so powerful. Um, but my my parents didn't like my father read Louis Limor paperbacks. I remember. My goodness, rarely. You know, it wasn't there wasn't a book on every bedside table, and I didn't really start reading for pleasure until I was a young wife. I read a few books in high school and college. I remember we passed around love story in college from room to room to room in the dorm, and then we call it crime. Uh, but I didn't really start reading voraciously until I was a young mother, uh, pregnant mother with fat ankles and laid back on the phone booth under my ankles and, you know, and reading. And my neighbor used to bring me books from the My husband was in the military, So books from the, um um the BX and they were paperbacks. But there was not much of a mass market industry yet, and so they were paperback reprints of classic novels. And so I got my real teeth on. And you, Seton and Rosemary Holly Jarman on some of the classic historical romance. Novelists. Yeah, what happened with Mary Rogers and Kathleen would weigh on the place. Exploded way all of a sudden, had a mass market paperback industry. E think What's fascinating? Not only is it in your answer that maybe it wasn't your parents, I'm telling you, I bet if we lined up 100 authors, 99 of us would say we spend a lot of time in the library that libraries were a big part of our formative years because there's something about a library that it's almost like we absorb the magic of storytelling and know how important it is. So even if it wasn't in your home, you were in that library, I think that's fascinating. Uh huh. That is it, really, really is. That's a great And I think it's so interesting to that. You know, you would expect that every author would say, Oh, yes, it is very important, but that hasn't been our experience had lots of authors come on here and say we didn't read my parents, and you know, that wasn't a big deal for us. So very interesting. And, well, Mary Alice, do you have a question for Robin. Well, we're switching to television. As a matter of fact, with Segway. Um, I have to say, I loved the Siri's, the Virgin River Siri's and I've been watching it with my sister breathing, and we were waiting with bated breath for the next season on. And as I said to your earlier after the show tonight, we're gonna go downstairs and continue watching it so great. But having read the books as well as watching the show a big fan, I do notice there's a difference between the storyline in your books and the storyline in the TV series. So I'm curious, you know, as unauthorized. Are you involved with the writing of the Siri's? And if you are or are not, how do you feel about the way it veers off? Well, first of all, I knew that there would be major changes. And if you when you're reading a book, all you have to do is just stop for a second and think about all that internal dialogue, all that description, all of that aspiration, all of that stuff, you know, you have no place for any of that in film. So right there there's gonna be an enormous change. The other thing is, when all you have is a set and dialogue and action, you're gonna see a lot more action than you will in the in the novel. But, no, I was not involved in the writing. I did have the show Runner and and Scriptwriters called once in a while and asked for my opinion, and I really tried to stay out of it on. The reason is I don't write movies. I write book it. Given an opportunity, I could really screw up a good movie. You know, that's really interesting. It's true. They it is really unusual for an author to get her hands mixed into the script. I think a lot of the directors and writers, and rather you just didn't so...

I think that's right. They'd rather you just didn't because really, really, we don't know. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm filled with opinions and I have even written screenplays. Terrible screenplay, another world. But But you know, I I think that it's easy to say to voice your opinion, and I'm seeing lots of it on Facebook these days that strong opinions about the Siri's uh but it really good for it. They know what's good for movies. They make movies. Yeah, I said, It's so true that, um, you know, when I hear someone say, Oh, that you know, we prefer the book or the movie or whatever. It's often that it's a different medium. You can't go into the detail of a book on A on a TV Siri's, especially because of the limited time on guy. Actually there the books are great and the Siri's air greats You should be very pleased. It's two. For the price of one. You'll probably get a big kick out of the Siri's. And if you love the Siri's, the books will give you a little more exactly there. You guys well said, Well said Christian, do you have a question? You like to ask Robin? You know, Robin, So you address so many difficult topics in your novels. Domestic violence, post traumatic stress disorder, workplace burnout, miscarriage just I mean, the list goes on. So do you have when you set out to write, Do you have a topic like that in mind? Or do they kind of appear naturally? Is the story progresses? I would like to say that they appear naturally, but they don't actually carefully thought out. In fact, sometimes when I'm when my brain is empty, which it usually is, uh, my editor and I will an agent will bang around some ideas and say, What haven't we done yet? What woman's issue haven't we? Haven't we approach your travel? And I did have one male friends say to me, Who's knocking you around? All the women in your story? Your Well, I'm sorry. It's It's a very important issue. E perfectly safe, but way do it purposely and and then what makes it? If you read a Robin Chi romance, there will probably be social issues in In in the book. And if you read a Robin Car Women's Fiction, there will probably be a romance. Okay, a position of romance and women's issues in all my books. That's wonderful. That's so interesting. Well, I have a question that I'm really dying to ask you to. Professors published a paper in the spring 2015 issue of studies and popular culture called Envisioning Utopian Possibilities and Robin Cars Virgin River Romance Novels. So they noted that the Siri's suggests I love. This suggests a communal mode of living that contrasts in some important ways with the rampant individualism of 21st century American society. Depicting Virgin River is a believable community that prioritizes friendship. Sharing of resource is and social solidarity above individual achievement and consumerism, which I just thought was so fantastically said on Dzyuba commented in the paper, neighbors were committed to neighbors who automatically come together in times of need. So I'm just wondering what inspired you to create a community like Virgin River? Is it based on something you know, that you really lived? Or just something that you wished for? Oh, wished Okay, first of all, of a city girl on. And I think that's not the first time I've been accused of being a socialist, to tell you the truth, but it z it's utopian. And, uh, and the other thing that I love about Virgin River is it Z. It's not cute, it's tough. It's a really white picket fences, and nobody moves there to bake cookies for a living. It's really it's a hard nose place where where people get in trouble and get and could get hurt and absolutely, and they're very far removed from civilization, so first responders can't get there easily now. When I went to Humboldt County on a little research trip, I had already written most of the first book. And it's of course, it's a fabulously beautiful place where they're growing marijuana back in the woods and it's breathtaking. And I was with a friend and we looked at the map and saw that from Highway Five, which...

...runs up the middle of the of the state of California to the coast was, ah, highway ah, 120 miles and we said, Well, good, well, gash over to the coast and have lunch five hours later E right off the road by lumber trucks, longing nuts. We finally made it Thio coat its's. It's much more rugged and remote than people realize. So what? But what makes stepped on for the writer is it requires something of the characters. Toe live there, and I've heard some locals stay. If you make it here three months, you'll never leave. Wow, e. It's not E. I mean, there's just I mean, you bears in your kitchen sometimes. I mean, it's a tough place which doesn't make it so much fun to watch on the Siri's, too. It's so beautiful. And the directors are very good about showing how how important the setting is. E think that was a good job with that? Yes, I agree. Well, thank you so much, Robin, for answering all of our questions. And now we wanted to let you always ask a few questions. So we've pulled some questions from our Facebook page. And if you're watching now, just a reminder that you can leave live questions for Robin because we're gonna pull a few in just a minute. But I did want to tell you first, we have a reader named Claire Thoreson, and she said that her husband passed away in February. But she wanted you to know that you were his favorite author and he had read almost all of your books way all our, um Okay. Mary Kay, Would you like to ask the questions? Yeah. Michelle Church says that she finished book one in season one of Virgin River, and she says today I'm gonna start book to how much time has passed from Book one. Book 19. 0, they're all written in real time. The first three books were published in 2000 and seven Emmy and it was 2000 and seven in the books. What the copyright page and you'll see what year those books we're set. Um, she loves the characters that you've created, by the way. Uh, Mary Alice, would you like to ask a question? I have one from Donna Misson. Rydell? She asked. Are there any more Sullivan's Crossing books coming? And would you write another long Siri's like Virgin River? Yes, there is another Sullivan's Crossing, a book coming along as soon as I think of one e don't have an idea what it will be about, but, yes, andan other long Siri's. Well, I have to say, um, and writing a syriza's longest Virgin River really turned out to be fun. E mean. The hard part is, there's already an established, you know, setting and characters. And the easy part is there's already an established setting. Yeah, good answer. True. So true. Patty, can you pull a live question for us, please? Yes, I can, but I'm gonna have to tell you that answer you just gave about Sullivan's crossing. Yes, once I know what it's about. Sounds like the answer. We've all given an editor. E sure, sure I can do that and then we hang up when I think of it, That or here's a good one for you My editor said, How's the book coming? And I said, It's coming beautifully in my head, Yeah, E It's all up here. Oh my God, it's true. But maybe laughing. We've all said that exact same thing. So this is really a proposed for the time. This question is from sued Johnson, Sue Johnson, Bishop Sue. Your name is like a tongue twister, she said. Robin, you have a favorite Christmas book or movie you must read or see every year. She also said Kristen Higgins is so funny and that we all must go to her crappy friends blogged. But do you Christmas Booker movie? You must see her read every year. It has become my religion. It's a wonderful life. Itt's It's what I love. And it's what I believe, that the smallest act can change the course of history. A right's one of my favorites. Absolutely, very best. Kristen, could you pull a live question for us, please? Marchi? Clavin Montagne would like to know eso, she says. As someone who...

...hasn't yet read one of Robin's books, Is there one that Robin's suggests to start with? Well, I would say Virgin River from here, if you like that, you like them all well, and then let me ask a follow up question from Laurie Finnan Bowers, She says, Do we need to read the Virgin River Siris in order? It's entirely up to you. I tried to write them so that they would each stand alone, but it is an ongoing Siri's. If you prefer to read them in order, they're listed and numbered in order on my website. Wonderful. Well, Robin, one of our favorite parts of this show is receiving a writing tip from our guests, many of our viewers or writers. And of course, we are a swell Andi. I feel like we always walk away feeling like we've learned something. So no pressure s Would you mind sharing a little bit of your wisdom with us tonight? Well, sure. We actually already talked about it. I think it's very important. First of all, that you write every day, every day, and you have to be willing to write crap because you can always fix it. But if you don't get anything written at all, you're just getting nowhere. You can't make any progress if you've done nothing. But the other thing is, I think it's really important. Thio, examine your motives, decide what success means to you and write the book you most want to read. I'll always maintained that successes and something that you look back at an entire lifetime to see whether it was there. I think it comes in minutes and seconds. Um, and if you take if you look at it in small doses, you'll find what drives you. Right. Can you remember the first time that you woke up and thought I'm successful? No, I know. I mean, I've been shocked by a few things. My first time on me the seller list. I was, I think, at number 32 on the New York Times extended list. And I thought, Well, good there. Now I can die happy woman. I'm e had no idea what was coming. I have a number one e. Unbelievable. Do you keep moving the goal post? Get No, I'm not. No, I'm not. In fact, I rarely e rarely celebrate. It's not. It's just that's not the important part e don't want. I don't want success or a certain amount of money or ah, certain level of fame to be what drives me. That's not what drives me. I need to write a really good book. That's hard enough. Yeah, absolutely. That's a really great answer on that is so true because I think we're always you know, you always think that getting that next thing is going to be the moment when you're like I did it and then you get it. Yeah, that's not the point. And then you go up in the page and the next day anyway, no matter what. True, that's true. That blank page did not care that you hit number one E because there was no man. E. Don't think that's the only reason I e. You know, definitely Do not definitely do not Robin. Our readers love hearing what our guest authors or reading. So do you have any recommendations of something that you've read lately that you've really enjoyed? You know, one of your questions was what was the last book he raved about a really good friend of mine, said that she just found out that her granddaughter is on the spectrum, that she has a probably mild case of Asperger's. A real manageable case. And I said, You need to read the Rosie Project A. Yeah, that book we'll give you You'll have so many laughs and give you such insight into what it's like. Tips have Asperger's e raved about and it's I write it years ago and I was so impressed and I thought it was so fun. That's that's awesome. Well, Patty, I think you have that. You, I just wanted to interject, go hand in hand with that is the curious incident of the dog at...

...midnight that is such a brilliant book to put you into the head of the child who has Asperger's. Have not read that e. They have a problem. Back. Play a bit too. Wow. One day, maybe we'll be able to get Maybe we'll go back. Thio Patty, I think you had a book recommendation. I do, but I wanted to say Robin really quick. It's amazing that when we want to recommend something to somebody about their real life, we recommend fiction because that's where we find the truth. Right way Don't recommend, you know. Anyway, um, yes, I wanted to tell you all about, and I left it in the kitchen because I'm reading it. I wanted to tell you about how wonderful on how excited we are. I'm reading Susan Mallory's new Christmas book, and it is We're reading to Christie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hold it up. Because I left it in the kitchen where I'm reading because the man upstairs Yeah, we are. Susan is going to be on the show in about a week and a half, but it iss such a feel good. You think you're going to read for a minute, and all of a sudden you're halfway through the book. It is such a good book. So I just I wanted to mention that I'm sorry. I think it's not my bedside way. It's fun when we all read the same thing at the same time. Does anybody else have a book that they wanted to recommend tonight? Um, I am just getting into the woman with the Blue Star. This is an example of our friend Pam Jenoff up here. Jealous, um, comes out May 4th e Pam's a great friend and she writes amazing historic fiction. And this one again is set during World War Two. So I can't wait to dig into that. Yeah, Anybody else have one? Well, I just finished a match made at Christmas by Courtney Walsh. And if you're looking for just, like, another great feel good Christmas book, it is so wonderful. I read it just like that, actually put it in the Facebook group the other day. It's really well written. It's so charming. And the premises so great. So if you you know our into Christmas books, you should definitely check it out. Um, Well, thank you. Okay, Now, we do have a few announcements, but we have one more question for Robin at the end to make sure that you stick around. Um, and Mary Kay. Can you remind us about our bookseller, please? Yes. Um, this week R J. Julia is offering 10% with the code friends 10 on books by Robin Car and by the five of us. And the link can be found on our friends and fiction Facebook page. Yes. And the store is in a gorgeous little town in Madison, Connecticut. I was there years ago, and it's such a charming place. And so we hope that you guys will all be moved. Thio. Do what we love to do, which is to do business with. Give your business to independent booksellers. They need it. Absolutely. Yeah. Now, Kristen, you have some exciting news to share with us, I think. Yeah. So speaking of independent booksellers, we are thrilled to tell you about friends and fiction First, which is a subscription box we're doing in partnership with Oxford Exchange and Indie Bookstore in Tampa. So it's a really cool deal. So for $150 which includes shipping and tax, you get all five of the friends and fiction authors new 2021 books the week they're released, which will be between March and July of 2021. On every single one of those books will be an autographed first edition. Plus you'll get a tote bag. Plus, if you're one of the 1st 200 to order by December 10th, you get this Little Christmas just came in, and there there's nice so that I thought they say friends and I didn't know what they're gonna be like e No, I e e Really? Okay, e say that is the person who had the maid I had this sense of, like, what if they're awful, but e one so badly? They say friends and fiction 2020 the first year. And Mary Alice, if you want one, all you have to do is order the friends and victims first E But without it, Robin gets one no matter what. So, yeah, we're close to selling out of these were almost took 200 which is awesome. And overall, it's about a 10% savings on the books. Plus, of course, there signed first editions. So and we love Oxford Exchange. We love supporting India's. So they're e. Yeah, I am. Patty, can you tell everyone about our brand new foray into YouTube? Yes. So...

...we have been trying to figure out because we get so many questions on the page. Where can I watch the past shows? How can I tap into them? So we now not only have a Facebook page, not only have a podcast, not only have a website not only have an instagram but bah boom, we haven't YouTube channel eso it it is on and use that ampersand, friends and fiction. And you We have been loading all the old shows on there that you could just watch on YouTube. So it there soon and I think we're gonna be We are streaming live there right now. We're YouTube stars were phenomenal way already have, like tens of followers. Way E. Thomas. It was your mom, our first follower tell with Mom was a second and my mom was the second. And you go to the YouTube channel hits grime and you can watch it there or on Facebook. Now Bonnie and Beth got on the phone with their friends and said, Please go fall e think half our members from Bonnie and back. All right, Mary Alice, I'm so excited about next week's show. We've all been so looking forward to it. Can you please tell us who our guests way are? It's very exciting. And it's also serendipity that I'm introducing next week's guest while we're talking about Robin's experience with television. And that's our theme for December 9th. We are so thrilled to have ah, favorite of the important artist Andie MacDowell. We love her, and I know most of you love her. Who doesn't love Andie MacDowell and Andy when she brought out my book Beach House to television? Um, she was also not just the actress, but a producer. And so it's going to be interesting to hear her take on that. And speaking of a producer, were also having the renowned producer Todd Karma. Nikki. And you may not know his name, but, you know, one of his movies. It's a favorite at Christmas time. Elf. I know you're all going. What? Yes, really? It's him. So this will be a very, very special, expanded program for 75 minutes because we have these two. Very exciting. Yes, and so you might want to bring two glasses of wine a little half bottle half. Okay, well, that is gonna be so great. We'll have to go watch the beach house and watch out again in preparation for the show. Right now. Robin, we have thank you for being patient through all of our many, many announcements. Um, but we have one last question for you. Glenda White wants to know if you're going to write any more books in the Thunder Point. Siri's. I don't plan Thio, I got to the end of, uh I got to the ninth book, and it looked to me like all of the significant characters in that town were taken care off, and they were all in a really good place. Now, I know you can roll somebody into town in there in their station way and and have them break down in front of the bar, and everybody could change. But that's a really good idea. I write a book about that. I think that I think that that z that's really region, I think. I mean, if I were reading that, I would say she should have fought harder and longer. Uh, my answer is no, I don't plan to. Unless something happens, you know, you might have a dream and all that might change. All right, well, we cannot thank you enough, Robin, for being our guest tonight. You were amazing. And I know I speak for all of us. Might say we're so glad that we got to know you a little bit better. And you were just a fantastic guest. Please come back. It was a pleasure I would love toe. Well, e no, after the show, I'm watching Virgin River with thing. Well, this is your last reminder to check out return to Virgin River. Um, if you want to show the book cover one more time, Erica, if you've got that But we're just so thrilled that all of you are here making our holiday season bright. And we're so grateful for this community now more than ever. So keep tuning in on Wednesday nights for tons of fun Lots of laughter in a big dose of holiday cheer and pre order the Islanders a rap Goodnight, everybody A...

...so great to meet you Think rare mood tonight Think Meg could pop on med? Can you, Erica? Can you pop Meghan e Think she should be on her after she e She's like unless she doesn't want to be She might not be e didn't know that I was going to be on camera. I would have on no maker. That was so much fun. She was great. It was fantastic. Her advice was so on the money and so sharp, You know, it was just No, no holds bar. You wanna tell everyone who make us? I was just gonna say anything I was saying from Eros Finished. So for those of you who hear us, talk about Meg all the time, this is Meg Walker. She is there managing director. But she's actually just the guru that keeps us for coming off the rails, which might not help tonight, but usually it does on. And she is, um, also a really dear friend. But she keeps us together. She's behind the scenes, getting us together, so yeah, thank goodness it's not really the Fab Five. It's like this silly six or something, right? It takes a Giorgio women, you know, um, we'll add Sean in. Shawn's usually are behind the scenes guy, and we could be the sexy seven with celebrating his 40th birthday, right with celebrate their 40th birthday with. But that's a rock star. So that's true. I want more than anything that I had thought Thio bring his music video tonight and share that not you guys. Next week we're gonna have a birthday celebration for Sean and share his viral video because it's it's incredible. You guys, your holiday will be made e don't know. Kind of a big way. Remember, though, What do you guys doing this weekend watching Virgin River. Benji? Yeah. You're actually what do you have? Our Yeah. I'm trying to remember that it's Christmas season and I'll try to decorate. I'm gonna buy Christmas pajamas for everybody. I love to do that. You know, the sillier the better I bought on thanks for Thanksgiving night. I bought the three of us in our family Make Mickey Christmas PJ's. But I e of course, right. But I neglected to consider the fact that they were flannel. And on Thanksgiving night, it was like 80 degrees here. So we were all, like, sweating before way e m I'm gonna take, um My son Andrew texted that he was gonna put up a Christmas tree in his house this year. And so he said you got you got any spare Christmas decorations? And of course he knew that I have bins and bins and bins full of Christmas crap. So I'm gonna load up the sled and take down there, and then I'm going, We're going to tie be for the weekend, but yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back home Monday. Christie, what way have our flotilla here this weekend? So, like our little bit parade, which we're still doing. I think it's much smaller, but I mean, everyone's on the water in their own boat. So it za pretty socially distanced Safe activity. Um, our son really wanted to be in the flotilla, but e think it's gonna be cold this weekend, so I just really couldn't do it. But they were gonna watch that. And that's always really fun. Somebody e Yeah. Oh, I do have to say, I'm going up Thio north. Maybe the North Carolina Just where you are. Christie Woodson, Harvey. But it's Cindy Boils Birthday, who's a good friend of mine. And she always has really good wine. So drink really good and happy birthday, Cindy, I know you're going to the attic toe. Bring down the Christmas. I'm going to the attic. So it's gonna be this grand adventure on E and climb the stairs and bring down to bend it right because he's had two hip replacements to me. Need two knee replacements. Um, and I'm going to say over and over. It's December, Patty, it's December. It is just because what is time? What is...

...money? What we're doing? Yeah, e don't know. I'm gonna listen to Robin Car and right in the morning before I love my car. E was so inspired by I had no idea that it had taken her so long to become a best selling author and and that was such an inspiration. I mean, e think it's a good thing to remember that success is kind of what we make it. Andi, that if your heart's in the right place E the right things kind of come along eventually, I don't know. I was I was just very moved and inspired to hear that, but also to hear her perspective on it. And that's why I asked that all of that question. I think it probably did make her, Ah, better writer and a stronger writer. I may be a stronger person, too. I mean, I think there's something to be said for having to keep climbing that ladder, you know, and all these years to find out that she one of my favorite editors, was that Martha, my very first editor, she she was the one I did the beach house with, and to know that she had the same editor, and all these years I had no idea. So it zig goes way back. It does. Yeah, she was She was great. And she's very unassuming and very humble. Like for someone who has won so many awards and done so many incredible things, she was very like, Don't. Yeah, well, guess what? We all have to fade every day. You know, you re pink that Patty, you froze for a second. I hate when I freeze. Um, we all have to face the same blank page every day. Way have to face it. You can have as much success as you want, but when you sit down at that computer, you still have that blank page. So my dogs with E what was happening? A where is you know what? One of the things I thought with all the guests we've had on is how you can tell that the people with you could just tell people's hearts and their books. If that makes sense and she has such a good heart, you could just tell him that tonight. And I have the feeling that that's a big part of why her books resonate so much with people. You know, she puts that heart into her stories. Yeah, that's that's a community is so strong. Yeah. All right. See, a gonna be a blast, everybody. So thanks a Sunday for the bonus. Next Sunday, next Sunday E a e next Monday. Susan Mallery? Yeah, E for sure. Yeah, that son panic. What did I not dio not Andy And, uh and God, that will be a degree. That is on Wednesday that terrible that terror when you wake up and go Oh, my God. I think I double booked myself. Yes, yes. Awful. Or oh, my God. Should I forget last night? Whatever. I always just especially now because we're not on the red. We're not anywhere. So I'm, like, shape to our days, You know? It's not like, Yeah, yeah, it's just that they lose that yoga pants and carbs. Yeah, I a e a There's something like, Yeah, go, go Pants and carbs. Okay, That should be our new coffee mug. E sweet time by everybody. You've been listening to the friends and fiction podcast. Be sure to subscribe to the friends and fiction podcast wherever you listen. And if you're enjoying it, leave a review. You can find the friends and fiction authors at www dot friends and fiction dot com. A Swell as on the Facebook group page. Friends and fiction come back soon. Okay? There are still lots of books, writing tips, interviews, publishing views and bookstores to chat about goodbye.

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