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Sunday Bonus Episode: Mother's Day with the Satellite Sisters

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Three hosts of the award-winning 20-year podcast phenomenon Satellite Sisters swing by to celebrate Mother's Day with the Fab Five in a fun round-robin question-and-answer show. Learn each woman's most embarassing mom moment, the fictional mom they most wanted for their own, and their favorite fictional bad mom. Enjoy a trip down memory lane with lots of insights and revelations and plenty of laughs. https://satellitesisters.com

Welcome to Friends and Fiction. Five best selling authors and the stories. Novelists, mary Kay andrews, Christine Harmel, Christie Woodson, harvey patty Callahan, Henry and mary Alice Munro are five longtime friends with more than 80 published books to their credit In 2020 they created friends and fiction to provide author interviews and fascinating insider, talk about publishing and writing and to highlight independent bookstores. These friends discuss the books, they've written the books they're reading now and the art of storytelling. If you love books and you're curious about the writing world, you're in the right place. Hello everybody. Welcome to our special sunday bonus episode of Friends and fiction. I'm mary Kay Andrews and today to help us celebrate mother's day. The sisterhood of Friends and fiction is happy to be joined by the Satellite Sisters. The real life Dolan Sisters Behind the phenomenally successful Satellite Sisters podcast. Satellite Sisters is a weekly podcast produced by mud bath productions and distributed by wondering. It is an award winning and super fun pep talk for modern women hosted by lian Dolan, Liz Dolan and julie Golan real Sisters with very different lives Satellite Sisters and forms listeners daily lives with entertaining conversation, smart advice, positive support and for me, loads of laughs. Starting out as a weekly syndicated public radio show. Satellite Sisters in 2000 and seven became a pioneering podcast, one of the first for women Now in its 20th, 20th year, satellite sisters were on her first year. They're in their 20 remains an upbeat female forward spot in the media landscape as the oldest of three sisters, two of which might be a bit Pesky. I still can't believe that these ladies has managed 20 years of working together. I love each other and I'll fight anyone who ever says anything bad about Barbie or Genie, but I bet they still remember how I blared music in the car to annoy them because I had to pick them up from gymnastics Or how I pin Jeannie down because she was 12 years younger and speak with her until she begged for mercy. So yeah, I can't wait to hear what these sisters have to say. But you should try being one of five sisters like me, we're all really close. In fact, during the pandemic, this last year I sheltered in place with two of my sisters and one of them, it really was great. It was, it was a Camelot year in some ways, but there are never enough books. Were always discussing books and so and my whole family when we were young, you know, with 10 of us, I wanted tennis, you know, perry um, we're always looking for something to read and that's why libraries were important. But if only my mom had a subscription to page one books all over. You know, page one personally select the books and send it directly to your home every month based on your taste. And we would have been like running to the mailbox to get that mailman and to pick up the book to say my, my mind. So receiving a book each month is such a treat. And I can only imagine what the race to the mailman for page one book delivery what had been like. But the dull in Sisters. Well, in addition to their wildly successful podcast together, the Satellite Sisters have written two books, Satellite Sisters, uncommon...

...senses and you're the best a celebration of friendship. And of course Lien is a novelist whose most recent book, The Sweeney Sisters was one of our favorites of 2020. But the real reason we're talking to the Satellite Sisters today is because we wanted to celebrate mothers and mothering. We're going to play a game that mary Kay andrews. Think she made up called May I, may I not Jocelyn Jackson just you know hustling on last month and uh that the game is not getting the kind of murdering vibes where she would say murdering fun, murdering fun times. You guys tune in for the murder refund. So game mary Kay Andrews made up is about our favorite fictional mothers are most embarrassing mom moments, the worst fictional mom's things like that. But first a word about another favorite mother and friends and fiction partner Mama Geraldine's, you know what makes a great Mother's Day gift for yourself, yep. These countries, it's the country's me that she's straws. How did you guess? So that way you are always prepared when your kids need a snack or when company jumped the drops by or you know, if you wanted to polish off the whole box by yourself, I don't really think that would be wrong, would it? I mean, I'm asking for a friend. I don't think that would be wrong. Right. It would not be wrong to do with cinnamon ease. Oh yeah, my mom, I'm on a diet. Guys, mothers were all Mother's Mother's Day calories do not count much like birthday calories. So to get your cheese straws or cooky fix used code. Fab five at Mama Geraldine's dot com for your 20% discount. Oh, and I have to tell you about a game, I just made up like this morning, make things more complicated. We're gonna do a secret word. Like they used to have, I think it was the Harpo Marx show. For Groucho Marx would have a secret word. Yeah, so there's a secret word um during this show and after as you listen to it, we want you to posting comments. What you think the secret word is at the end of the show I just found an earring hanging off my necklace that's on. It's actually relates to the word. That's normal ways to our secret. Heard us speaking us totally. Okay, let's enough of this. Nonsensical nonsense. Let's bring the sisters on. I'm going to ask you where they are and I'm going to ask you to do the intros. Okay. I'm sorry there aren't cheese straws for all on it. That was a campaign. I'm surprised you don't see it. I am having my friends and my friends of fiction wine. I we're so happy to be here. Thank you so much. Mother's Day is super special to Satellite Sisters. I mean well first of all it's just a fantastic holiday we get one day well. But you know, our mom had a twin sister, she had three sisters total, she was very close to her sisters. And so we made a big deal of it on the show for 20 years because our mom and her sisters are really our inspiration for starting Satellite Sisters in the first place. They kind of taught us a great lesson about family and sisterhood and uh, and that's, that was absolutely are our inspiration. So with that in mind I seem nice, but now I'm going to introduce my sisters. Um, so we're one of 88 kids and uh, and so in a big family, just go in age order. So there's no getting around that julie is the oldest sister, There's julie, she actually Dallas texas, she has lived all over the world in exotic locales where she raised her Children. Um julie is a pioneer of helicopter parenting, so we're very proud of her, she in the helicopter and she has two boys and she...

...has five beautiful grandchildren. And uh, and we're, we love julie because she is the classic big sister and she does everything proper and right since thank you notes and things like that. And now the opposite of that is Liz, uh, this is uh, she's a middle sister, she's number 48 she's single. She lives in santa Monica, Liz is our families fun on, you know, it's a good thing when Liz takes an interest in you because she delivers the fun factor to her nieces and nephews and friends, the daughters and sons of her friends. Uh she's also the proud pa parents of hooper whose um but but he's delightful. I live in Pasadena California, I'm the mother of two college or I guess they're in their twenties now, post college age kids. Um I thought they wanted to be the cool mom until things got to middle school and that was just so awful and parenting. Gotthard and I'm like okay, no more of this cool mom stuff. I am buckling down right now. So uh I also have a big german shepherd. So that's that's the intro for the Satellite Sisters. Hello, welcome, welcome. I love you for having us. So we're gonna be talking about moms and aunts and families and celebrating and all. And I love that social media tag mom life hashtag mom life as a mom and believe it or not, a grandmother. I have been thinking about how my own mother's version of mom life shaped me, her being a mom, She wouldn't even know what a hashtag was and I just spent two weeks, I'm still here with my daughter who is a mother now and her version of mom life living on a tropical island. So there is no right or wrong way in any of our three ways of doing things and yet they're so different. I was raised in the suburbs of philadelphia with a preacher father and a strict religious upbringing. My mom was a kind of preacher's wife, stay at home. Mom, I spent most of my days and nights in a church and then I raised my kids in Atlanta Georgia on three acres on the chattahoochee river. And it wasn't until I was older that I realized that not everyone had a preacher's life daughter kind of light like people always in the house, people spending the night in the house, strangers living with you and I did the opposite with my family and now my daughter has her family on an island in the middle of the pacific. So it's just really interesting to watch the progression of parenting. So I want y'all to talk to us about how your parenting and anti styles have differed compared to your mom or even if you've watched um Liz you're julie your kids, probably your parents now. Right. And so watching them be parents. So it was a little bit about that. You want to go first? Sure. I mean our mom was getting her Masters and nursing at Yale. Um and then she go out and then she, I know patty, she's a nurse, her mom and her sister. And and as soon as she got engaged, that was over, you know. But so then she raised eight kids with sort of a military like precision in terms of logistics. And I think mary Alice, I don't know what your family was like, but there's either it's either chaos or it's organized chaos. We were the opposite. We had dinner together every night, you know, on her in church, you know, early on Sundays make your bed every day or else you don't want to come home. Um, so I think what I learned from her is just organization timetable. Like I became a producer and there's no surprise because I, you know, I was used to organising things, but what I really appreciate about my mom was that she was always super supportive of our careers, which I saw of our careers and...

...of her daughters in law careers. There was no judgment like we had kids, we're going to work, we were doing our thing. And that was incredibly important because that was the time when the mom was were happening and I had friends whose mothers or mothers in law was really critical of, they're trying to put their work life balance together and my mom knows never that and I always appreciated that. Yeah, I think I'm going next. Our mom also had a great sense of adventure. Now. She had the Atkins, she had a station wagon. I think she had was a twin, she had a twin sister who had nine. So yes, you have that right to twin moms, two station wagons, 17 kids. And she would just go, okay. I mean she took us out of school like I'm glad it's going to be in a ticket tape parade. Okay, we were there okay. World's Fair. We had matching outfits. We were there broadway show. She takes out did that. They love they, they got nothing of like packing a lunch, piling seven or eight kids in the car. Lian didn't always make these trips because she was the youngest left home. But my mom would pack up pile seven or eight kids in the car driving hours. Just some local ski area so we can all see. So she just like she didn't give a crap, she didn't care to traffic Junior about directions, whether parking, she just had this great sense of fun like be in the moment, do things things are happening, you need to experience it. And I think that's what gave me such a great sense of adventure. I have lived all over the world. I've gone to a lot of strange countries. North Korea, Uzbekistan. I've been to places but I think it's my mom in that station where I'm going with the kids like going to see fireworks, whatever it was. That's what, that's what really inspires me. Yeah. So I guess it's my turn now. I think, um, like my mom, I'm a planner, you know, she was known to say good planning makes for good fun and because you do need, it has to have a certain military edge to it. But so why, when, when you're dealing with big numbers, right? So I really enjoyed in my adult life, sort of being the catalyst for a lot of our family get together, you know, I'm single, but I like to sort of get people together organized the summer family reunion and bend over again where one of my brothers lives there full time and I lived there part time. So family wounds in bandar fun, another christmas holiday and Puerto Vallarta. I organized where everybody came in from all over a cruise to the Galapagos. So I, my sister and I also think, I think it's because I'm not a parent that I enjoy gatherings where the kids can relax and kind of have their own experience. So I remember during that Puerto Vallarta vacation, we were at an all inclusive resort and when the kids figured out that they could order room service, oh your parents either knowing or paying, they were just beside themselves basement after time in the rooms, not on the people because the idea of uh, you said any hour of the day or none, like bring me a case of via right now, lost money out this man. Yeah, sure. And when we went to the Galapagos, we were on a national geographic ship and the kids were running like an all night card game in the bunk room. That's, that's...

...what's happening in there. And I know our mother and not Dolan would not have approved and maybe leon you were their mother, maybe you didn't approve either, but they down there have fun. So it took a good plan for them to have good fun. Yeah. You know, my mom had five kids in seven years and starting with my oldest sister who was born when my mom was only 19 now my mom always worked outside the home, which I hated as a kid and for the other kids, moms, it was the sixties, nobody else's mother was working, which I hate him and I always swore that I would one day be the stay at home, mom running carpool and taking, taking kids on the field trips to the roller rink, which by the way, the roller rink in ST pete florida was called gay blades, that's all you need to know. And then, um, you know, then I realized I wanted to be, have a career as a writer. Now my mom was funny and tough and she did have a bit of a potty mouth. I think I've inherited some of that. My kids know that I will absolutely bring an F bomb and I will dog test them. They get out of line. I think, you know, their differences to, I'm more sentimental that my mother had no room for sentiment very little and I'm probably more hand. I won't, I was never a helicopter mine mom, but you know, I'm more hands on than she was because I only had two kids and they were four years. You know, she had five in rapid succession. How about you were from a big family? I am, I know big families. Like I said, I wanted 10 Children. So, um, catholic. So I guess my parents didn't have a lot of rhythm, which is kind of funny because my mother was a ballerina and even funnier is my father was a pediatrician. So everyone has to make the joke. You know, he started his own practice. Yeah. The fact that my mother had cesareans and so those are very dangerous back in the day. And so she was always put to bed before the births and after the births because you know, they didn't have zippers, so she had to have surgery. And even though we had helped, my mom always had lots of help as an older daughter, responsibility for the kids, a lot of the time fell to us. You know, we were the ones who put the kids to bed or for naps. And I think as far as mother, she's great mom, but I think she was a little overwhelmed, you know, really just between being in bed and always having babies. So we didn't, we had to go to church because my father made sure that was going to happen, you know? But other than that it was we didn't go out much, there's just too many of us and we kind of left to our own devices for entertainment. And so I don't know if it was nature or nurture whether we're born with it or it was just that we were alone a lot, but we were creative bunch. And so when we were young I had the best time rewrote plays and musicals and we made costumes. Some of my sisters are artists and their great scenery and the little kids, we put in costumes wouldn't know what they were doing, they had a part to play, but we were always playing make believe and that was a sense of joy because we had each other and we always knew mom loved us, that was the main thing. She may not have been very organized but she loved us so fast forward when I was a mom. I have three kids and we had this big old sheep farm in Vermont and we brought my kids there every summer just me and my husband was at the NIH working and we were alone and I used to open the doors and let the kids run out like it's a miracle they weren't even by bears or got lost in the mountains but we just let them out you know and rang the ballot night for dinner remember those days and I think what I wanted for them is actually what I got from my mom was that we had to be...

...independent, we had to be bored and we learned to explore just get out there and explore. And I think the other thing, the end of the day, I might not have been a helicopter mother myself and I was working, but I think my kids know I love them and that's what's most important. Yes, for sure. For sure. I'm sort of like the opposite of mary Alice because I'm an only child, not one of my dream great, but I Always laugh because I think my mom was one of those people that was born to have like 10 Children and she just couldn't like she had me and that was it and but she's one of those people that makes parenting just look like it's really easy and she's super organized, everything is always really clean and she always had like 12 of my friends I read all times and there was always dude and like the big candy ball and she always drove carpool and she never missed a tennis match and she was just like the best mom. Like she just really what she was and she still is um and it was funny though because I always used to say like when I grow up I'm going to be a mom just like you and I'm gonna stay home with my kids and she would say that's great if you want to do that, but I don't think that's your personality. I think it's so funny in retrospect that she could recognize that in me like even when I was a child that you know I needed, I was gonna want to work and I was gonna you know need something sort of outside of that. Um and I think that's and that's pretty cool but she influenced my parenting a lot for sure I am. Um I am not organized like she is, I mean I am about some things like work wise and things like that, but like not my house, I mean that is not, I mean you can walk in her house at any time and it is spotless and like ready for a party. She hosts every family event. I host all the family events now, but it's like an effort for me, you know, there's a lot of like panicking at the last minute and um, but I love being, I think that's one of the things I love about being a writer and like I can be a field day and I can be class mom and you know, I can do all those things, but still have this really great thing that I love. So um, yeah, she, she was definitely an amazing influence on me and I hope I'm, I have well looks back and things that I was a good mom. Like I think my mom was, you know, you Will. So I'm the oldest of three and my mom who I am lucky to still live only 20 minutes away from which is great. It's so nice to have her close by. She ran a household that was just full of love and support. So our house was always messy. There was always a lot of noise, not least of all because my brother, my sister and I all played the drums. Can you imagine? Like, I don't know what my mom did in a previous life way. We literally had waited a drum set in our living room and we were all terrible, terrible or mom loud. It was almost mystical. Yes. I made a mistake with the drummer. Yes. But in amongst all that chaos, we knew that our mom always had our backs. That was something that was really special and something that I think I always took for granted because, you know, it's just always the way that it was. I think when you're a kid you take those things for granted, but it's something I hope I've carried into my own parenting to. So I want to be that mom who always advocates for her son, but who also teaches him to advocate for himself, to stand up for himself and to believe in himself too, because those were the kind of lessons I got. So I have unfortunately inherited the messy house jean, which I myself up about way too often. I really do have a messy house, but you know, I try to remind myself more often these days that it's okay not to be perfect and that even if the floors need scrubbing and the beds aren't always made because they're usually not always made. Um, I'm doing my best and I'm doing my best to create a household's that's full of love and full of support. Like my own...

...mom did. So, you know, it's kind of a constant struggle, but that's where I am. You know, it sounds like we've kind of had some storybook moms or you know, maybe not so storybook, you know, moms in popular culture have this rap as being card work ST and I'm wondering, my mind always goes there. What's the worst fictional mom that you all have ever encountered or for the mothers amongst us created? And I have to say right off the bat? No, Mommy dearest Joan Crawford answers that will just qualify you because that's just too easy. Anybody want to jump in, I'll jump in, I'll jump in because I I really struggled with the mother in the dutch house and I believe you had an patching on it. Of course, she's a wonderful writer. But that mother just abandoned her Children and then they spent the whole book talking about the mother that abandoned their Children. Even crazy. I just wanted to throw the book across. They spent a lot of time talking about that mom. So, I I loved the book, but I just Oh, that mom sticks with me, sticks with me. Okay, I'll jump in with the bad mom. I love. And that's burning down. From Where'd you go? Bernadette. Oh my God. Oh my God is the best bad mom ever. And sorry lee And she does kind of abandoned her family at one point, but it's only temporary. And it's in the spirit of great adventure. So, I love I love that. I love it. Okay for me. I just read Hamnett and Hamlet together. Oh my gosh! Hamlet's mother. Whoa was she? You know, to read her now as a mother, understand mother. She was so selfish, so, so despicable. Yeah, she's bad. Okay, a good combo together to it's so funny how they stood the bad mom stick in the craw right? Like you thinking about him, I am in the middle of reading, We begin at the end right now and that mom is so desperately awful and yet and yet like there's this great empathy because you find out why. So you're like, I can't believe she did that. Oh, can somebody save her? I can't believe she did that. Can somebody safer? So that's the first time I read about in a while. You know, I was thinking about this, of course, everybody here, all the ladies know, I do my best thinking in the shower and I was thinking about this this morning and I went, oh, the worst mother is the mother from Eleanor Oliphant. Yes. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my gosh, So bad. The way she damaged hurt and literally literally haunted her. Um, yeah, that's a bad mom right there. I'll tell you the worst mother or stepmother, I'm sorry, handsome girl. That's where you go. That's a pretty bad. She sent them out to the woods with just a little piece of bread and say, go fend for yourself, doesn't get worse than that. It's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. I wrote a pretty terrible mother in my first book, Dear Carolina. And remember my mom being like, I can't believe you did that. Everyone is going to think that she's me. And I was like, no one is going to think that. And like the very first book club that I did, I was like, I was, you know, speaking and we were at this lovely luncheon and somebody raised her hand and was like, it's the mother and the book based on your mother. And I was like, I am so glad that she is not here right now. She was uh, okay. So the worst, most humiliating embarrassing things your mom ever did to you or that you did to your kids. For example, mine was when I...

...forgot to pick up my child from elementary school and not just my child, but the whole car pool and I completely blame the book I was working on. But the shame of that still lingers and rust. My youngest still brings it out. Remember when you left? So I'm sure I embarrassed them all the time. But that one, that one sticks in my head. How about y'all? Well you know when Katie was at ST pious High School in Atlanta? For some reason I got asked to give a talk to the and this was really their name, the Pious Mothers Club which in itself was completely hysterical. So it just happens that the day of the event I happened to have a nun's habit, oh my God lying around my house and as one does have another habit so I decided to wear it to school to give the talk and then later for the after school uh Carpool. Yeah he did that larry. Uh I feel better about mine then Now minus seems small compared to that. But I I had an incident at the D. M. V. With my sons and I don't want to go into a lot of details because it wasn't pretty. But both my boys had a lot of over confidence going into their driving test, the written and the driver. So I spent the better part of three years at the DMV taking them immediately back to dad. You know family passed tests, they failed and went my son paul and for the he's in the next room five times. I lost it. I was like how can you keep? I just couldn't believe it. So that way the part of mother. Yeah. Well you know for years on satellite sisters we ran a most embarrassing mothering moments. I oh my God, it was our favorite part of the year because that happened. I mean the crazy wild things were all bad but some of the funniest ones were always just the simple things. So the two printers I remember most first was the mom who got a call from school because what she thought was a frozen juice box in her child's lunchbox was actually a frozen margarita. I I they were depleted, not in the office, but then the one who won one year was a mom who she had just had a new baby, but she was in a grocery store with her second grader and they ran into the second graders teacher. And so they're talking to the teacher and the child is proud. Her mom was talking to her teacher and then the teacher asked the mom what's the new baby's name? And the mother could not remember at all. Uh amazing that could happen to anything. So I'm feeling, I'm feeling better about my worst moment which was with my son who was applying to college high school senior. Uh at one point I turned and said to him and I sure I was wagging finger, I said, you go in that bedroom and you find a personal hero and don't come out until you have, Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Oh, so my son is only fine. So there's still plenty of time just screw things up for him. I don't think I've done anything major yet. So I will tell you one of the times my mother embarrassed me, which is when I...

...broke up with my very first boyfriend, my freshman year of high school because he had suddenly started giving me the silent treatment for no apparent reason. My mom invited him. It was so weird. My mom invited him over to dinner as a surprise because she was afraid that I was treating people like they were disposable and she was trying to teach me a life lesson. So I was in fact not treating someone like he was disposable. I was standing up for myself. It was all kinds of humiliating, but at least her heart was in the right place. And to this day I'm still friends with him. He's a good guy. We were just stupid kids, right? But he still talks about my mother's lasagna on that ill fated, embarrassing dinner. That's pretty epic. I really like that. Yeah, well my son is only nine, but like I'm plenty embarrassing already and I think, um, most recently for read across America week, you know, because I'm an author, I get to like come in and read to the class. So I dressed up like little Cindy lou who but not like old school little Cindy lou who like the new one that has the hair that goes like this and I bought the all the wig is like, not even imagine how good it is. I mean it's like this tall and this big, like I was driving to school and people were looking at me like, but I thought no one's gonna know who I am. Like I showed up in this wig and like a pink nightgown, you know at school and I go in the classroom, but everyone's like little Cindy lou who? And they were impressed, but he was not. I mean I might wear to his first day of high school just to reminisce that I yeah, I could run that cost that nun's costume for you and have it shipped to, you know, I was Actually a pregnant nun for Halloween one year. So that's how I embarrassed my mom. Uh I my baby is a boy zack. And just to be precede the story I say by saying he used to decide to go home from school, okay. Without telling anybody. You walked out of class, okay? So I'm in my office at home, the kids are in school, right? And I'm writing and I had read somewhere that if ever you hear an intruder, you get out of the house right away. So I'm writing and I'm typing and I hear the front door hilarious and I'm like, and I hear and I wait, I think it's my imagination and I'm typing. And I hear you can't mistake the sound of the drawer opening upstairs. So I tiptoe out of the house, right? Because I don't want to get in the house intruder. And I run to my neighbor and I said, can I call your phone, we've got to call the police. So we do. I call the police and come up very quietly and they draw their guns and I said this in the house and they went in and meanwhile a little crowds gathering in the bottom of the driving guys and a policeman comes out very strict with those. Excuse me, ma'am, do and do you know anybody by the name of Zack? No, no, never heard of him. I have never heard of him. Not. My son NATO told me he was maybe in second grade, right? And he said the policeman came into his room, we just got out. He never left school again. Well, that'll do it. I don't need the lesson right there. That's my son. Oh my God, this is a great segue into the next question. Which is what is your proudest accomplishment as a mother? Because I feel like mary ellis with that life lesson, that might be your most embarrassing and your proudest. So the question is, what's your proudest accomplishment as a mom? A grandmother? and onto surrogate mom, anything where you've provided guidance...

...right for the next generation? So for me it's this year I did my best, which is all we can do right. It was a tough year and my husband and I made a lot of decisions that will impact our son, um, for a long time to come, we decided not to send them to school. And I know not all of the decisions we made were right. I know some of them were wrong. Um, but I'm proud that I did my best and I lead with my heart, which I think is all we can do as mothers and as human beings. So, um, that's what I'm proud of this year. So how about you, lian? Well, I feel pretty trivial now because you did have a really hard, you're my hero, I am sure, and I'm proud that my sons are tall and I, you know, in that way you did that. I think I'm up next. I'm very proud of the fact that some of the details that I had as aunt Liz with like julie's boys, nick and will Orleans, boys, brooks and Colin um some of the things that happened on those outings have remained forever in the vault. Okay. I did not enjoy swearing them to secrecy, but I knew it was best for family unity. Okay. That's good for me, for me, I am proud of my daughter in law's. Okay, because they are both amazing women and they both loved my sons and they're wonderful mothers. So when I think about being proud, that's what, that's what gives me some satisfaction. I think for me it goes back to what I was talking about that being up at the farm and teaching the kids to be explored the world to be confident and go out there and I think they did. And I think that's what I'm most proud of. I'm proud that there are no felony convictions in my family. Yeah, I mean that's a bandage and that's a big one. I they all still speak to me every day, is a good one, honestly, really there and they still talk to me. So yeah, I think mine was, I didn't think of it till right now, but when Will was in the first grade and I went in for like his first, you know, like really big parent teacher conference and He's just really his own person and I just really like that. And I sat down at the desk and the teacher kind of went like this across the desk and she looked at me and she said, what can I say? She said, I've got a classroom of 20 Children and then will, who I can share a sarcastic comment with. It was like, that's him, He's just like, he's 35, but he's only six. Like, I don't know. Um, so my question is, who is your favorite mom from Fiction or even television or movies? Maybe the mom that you wish you'd been born to and why? Okay, I'll jump in. I mean, I don't know why I just thought it was really romantic to live in africa on safari because when I was growing up born free and doctorate, we were really big. That dr Murray was like riding that lion and the opening sequence. It's like, I wish I had been born to a british mother who wrote a lion. So I would say that is the opposite of my upbringing, but remember Herbal Moms, I picked a step mom, not a mom. And I just honestly don't know how you could score any better than Maria from the sound of music. I mean, yeah, it was fun. She bucked the system. She lightened up your dad, right. She had a...

...great singing voice and she helped you escape from the nazis. Don't forget those matching curtain. You know, mary Kay's done costume. I really wish that we could sing a little medley from that movie right now. I like Maria. Wouldn't you love your step mom to have our own theme song? Which is how do you solve a problem? Like Maria, yeah. Stands at the top of the mountain with her arms out and just things around. Yes, I I well, speaking of theme theme song, how about the patty Duke show? You remember? Oh, that was a powerful theme song. I love the mom and that show. I think she just had a sweet light. She had does, I don't just the two girls isn't so simple. You're a big family. She had that big staircase and nice husband seemed to have it all together. I areas and great people. I used to fantasize that I could live with the ingalls family. Now I realize that would have literally the absolute worst dream come true. As uh Garth brooks sings about, you know, unanswered prayers because who wants to live on the prairie, not me. But I think they were like, oh, pie, so nice and mine, I'm like, I'll never, never. I remember all of a sudden, I remember this, this movie, Mother and Doris day and please don't eat the daisies. Oh, she's married to David Niven, first of all who, you know, it was kind of cool. He had an english accent. She had all these kids, but she had help Nora, who the irish, you know, nanny person. Uh she moves out to the country and she writes a musical, she produces it, she acts in it and she stars in it and she sings a song called Please Don't Eat the daisies. Um and she's, you know, she's got this big old house, she re does because you know, I love redoing old houses. So after I thought about again in the shower today, I should just stay in the uh shower, you need to get a bigger hot water here. Who else has got? I just say I changed my answer because Julie when you're talking about the 1950s, that mother, the 1950s mother with the apron and the perfect hair and the pearls, you know? Yeah, I that was so far from what I lived it that I used Exactly. I used to watch that go, wow, a couple from school. Hey Beaver, how was your day? Would you like, would you like a cookie? That was normal. Oh my God, that's what my mom is. That was that was not my Mom's normal. My mom would have, you know, flick some cigarette ash on my homework. I just find my mom okay, we's coming out. I know, well, another course coming out, I want to read mary out this memoir. I'm more yeah, I have to remind everybody that, you know, every week and even on the bonus sunday bonuses, we have an indie bookstore that we ask everybody to support and today for Our Mother's Day show. The independent bookseller is Foxtail Books.

So go to their website and order all of our books because that's a Great Mother's Day present for us for us Right now we're gonna, are we gonna show are great, we're going to take us back, will be there. Leave mary Kay's brand new book and mary Alice's book coming out in just a couple days. Absolutely, I'm sad book is there and Christie's book is also there. So my TTL eventually joining. Yeah, A stroll down memory lane with the photos. Read that uh, we sent in some, we thought they were awesome photos. There's something there. Oh, the first one, Kristin. Oh, young uh, family Dolan's with your mom. Uh yeah. Uh managing producer, making her mom, there's my mom and I was like, oh, okay, that's Yeah, today, that's great. Okay, maybe. And white stripes in that picture and I am now like, I might have like a theme. Yeah, max are the same that you can get for preordering. Yeah. Oh good, very good. Okay. Hi box stripes, stripes my navy. I see it. It's weird. Yeah. Okay ladies, I was gonna ask everybody to tell us all about your idea of the perfect day or the Perfect Mother's Day, but I have to say that after spending it with my adoring Children and grandchildren, you know, costing and spoil even with that with them costing and spoiling me, which they don't do beating me. My idea of the perfect day. It's kind of one like today where we do get the costing and the feeding and the corny cards and all that. But we also get to spend time with all of you are friends and fiction, family. So I'm going to let everybody say good night happened. Thanks stolen sisters. Don't forget, don't forget in the comments. Put your guess about what the secret word is. It's themed to this Mother's Day Show and all the drama and trauma we've shared with you and the first person who guesses what the secret word is, leon's gonna send a copy of the Sweeney Sisters. So thank you. All right, Thank you for tuning in, join us every week on facebook or Youtube, where our live show airs every Wednesday night at seven p.m. Eastern time and please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on instagram. We're so glad you're here, wow.

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