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Friends & Fiction with Tim Ehrenberg and to Laura Taylor

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Mary Kay Andrews and Kristin Harmel sit down with two incredible independent booksellers. They talked to Tim Ehrenberg of Nantucket Book Partners in Nantucket, MA, and to Laura Taylor of Oxford Exchange in Tampa, FL. Hear all about their stores, the creative ways they are finding to not just survive but thrive during the pandemic, the importance of shopping local, and their desert island reads.

Welcome to friends and fiction. Fivebest selling authors, Endless Stories, Friends and Fiction is a podcast withfive best selling novelist whose common love of reading, writing an independentbookstores found them together with jets, author interviews and fascinatinginsider talk about publishing and writing. Thes friends discuss the booksthey've written, the books they're reading now and the art of storytelling.If you love books and you're curious about the writing world, you're in theright place. Best selling novelist Mary Kay Andrews, Christine Harmel, ChristieWoodson, Harvey Patty Callahan, Henry and Mary Alice Munro are five longtimefriends with more than 80 published books. To their credit at the Start of the Pandemic, they gottogether for a virtual happy hour to talk about their books, their favoritebookstores writing, reading and publishing in this new, unchartedterritory. They're still talking, and they've added fascinating discussionswith other bestselling novelists, so join them live on their friends andfiction Facebook Group page every Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern, or listenand view later at your leisure. Welcome to the friends and fiction podcast.Today we're talking Indies independent bookstores. I'm Christine Harmel, andI'm Mary Kay Andrews Today, we're privileged to talk to Tim Ehrenberg ofNantucket Island and Laura Taylor of Oxford Exchange in Tampa, Florida Nowwe all know that Indies air the lifeblood of our communities. They arejust a place to buy books, as we'll see later in the discussion, but also aplace that supports the stories that matter in both our books and our lives.Let me tell you first about Tim Ehrenberg. Tim has been an avid booklovers since before he could even talk. Originally from the Midwest, Timgraduated with a degree in history and religious studies from the Universityof Wisconsin Madison. Following graduation, he sang, danced and actedhis way around the country in various shows before moving to Nantucket Islandin 2013. He's the social media director for the Nantucket Book Festival. Ah,books contributor for Nantucket magazine and the marketing director forNantucket Book Partners, which includes Mitchell's Book Corner and NantucketBook Work. Welcome, Tim, Hi, Thanks for having me Right to see you or hear you.Thanks for being here with us, Tim. So, first of all, we love indie bookstores.We talk about them a lot on friends and fiction, and so many of our readersadore them for a multitude of reasons. But tell us, why are they so importantto not only the authors but to the broader community of readers andwriters to, Well, thank you. Once again, I want to thank you so much for havingme. It is really, uh, honor to be here with you both. And I want to say, firstand foremost that if it wouldn't be for...

...authors like you are, indie bookstoresprobably wouldn't still be in business because you guys championing our workis what is really, truly what keeps it going. So thank you so much. I recentlywrote a little post on Instagram about my love for bookstores that started soearly, and bookstores for me were really my toy stores and my candy shopslike and they were my books for my video games. I didn't you know, Iwasn't really interested in video games. I really just couldn't wait to get anew book. And whenever my parents would take me to the bookstore, I'd just kindof be let free within the shelves. And I always remember. My mom always saysthat she would come back to find me when it was time to go and I would hidein between the shell, so I wasn't ready. I hadn't decided quite which books Iwanted to take home. And my husband said that I still continue to do thatto this day when he comes to find me Thio that we have to get going, I'llhide because I was like, I havent decided quite what book. And I thinkthat's just what you know, the joy of bookstores. Your the world is at yourfingertips. I always call them kind of the time machine to the future in atime capsule to the path. You know, there's just so much there. I think I Ifound myself in books. I found friends in books. I found so many things, andthat's all you know, libraries to. But a bookstore for me was just one of thebest places that I could be. And it still continues to be so the fact thatI do this for a living now it's a dream come true and it makes a lot of sense.That's wonderful, Hatim, you're all their interview. Siri's Tim talks books.For those of you who have it, listen to it yet is entertaining and informative.Would you tell us how you how and why you started this and tell us about someof your most memorable interviews and you could also, you know, spill the teaon some of the some of the ways that also is there anybody you're dying toget that you haven't yet? Well, obviously, Mary Kay Andrews and Kristenare mouth way do need. I do need to get you on there. I would really love that.So I started Tim talks books because I mean one of the positive things thathave come out of this pandemic. And I hate to say positive. Is someone havinga little bit more time to do something Maybe they've always wanted to do andthen creating that? And so I earlier in the year, I I think this was anotherquestion, too. But Reese Witherspoon was looking for a resident library in,and she put out an all call to send in a video application, and I neverusually do things like that. I'm always like there's, you know, there's gonnabe thousands and thousands of Why would I do that? But I do come from a careerof performing in a history of performing. So I was like, You knowwhat? You're not gonna hear? No, unless you do it or Yes. So I put together anapplication, and then nothing had really come of it. And I decided whenthe pandemic happened and I had a little time, I was like, You know what?I could just maybe try this myself. And I really just wanted to talk to someauthors Thio, you know, help me through...

...the through all of us through thispandemic. You know, my connections through the book festival in thebookstores. I just You know, I I loved talking to people. So we started. Istarted with Ellen, who pretty much every day Elin Hilderbrand andNathaniel Philbrick and Nancy Fair. And then I'm friends with Jodi PICO. And Ihad so much fun with her. And I think the the thing with Tim talks books forme was just kind of asking authors new questions, not the same questions thatthey get asked all the time. Like, you know, You know what? Your writingprocess Not that that's a bad question, but I wanted to just make it a littlebit more fun. Like one of my favorite. I do a speed round with every author atthe end, and one of my favorite questions to ask them is what theirstage name would be. So I'm gonna your first pet and the street you grew up onAndrew's. What would yours be? I would be Moussi serpentine. Yes, I would loveto read a book by Moussi. Serpentine. Obviously, it's a It's a picture book.It's a picture. Yes. Okay. Every kid in a bookstore would look if you like. Iwant the new mostly serpent time. Okay, Kristen Minus terrible. My first petwas a dog named Dr Spots, so I would be doctor spots. Foot Mil e. Think anotherkids author, obviously. But I would totally pick up both of those books.It's things like that that I wanna you know, E want to talk about everythinglike the spectrum of this pandemic, and you know, everything that's going onand then something really silly, like your stage name. So right, But youstill haven't told us your most memorable interview. My most memorableinterview so far, I think waas so every summer? Well, not this summer, but I wewould go my husband. I go to visit the Van Lier family or Jodi's family up attheir lake house, and we always play games. And so I played a game ofcharades that Jodi with her book titles, and that was really, really, really funfor me because she we get really into games. And that was how the interviewended. And I also really enjoyed actually talking to Nathaniel Philbrickabout how right now we're living through history. Anyone who doesn'tknow Nathaniel Philbrick wrote in The Heart of the Sea. And he's a historianand a Nantucket local Nantucket author, and it was interesting just to try. AndI was a history major in, um in college, And so I was really interested in histakes on what we're living through right now and what people 100 yearsfrom now will be writing about and talking about. I'm gonna have to goback and listen to that one. What about the Blue Whale? What's the one you'retrying to get but haven't gotten so far? You know, I'm a huge fan of StephenKing and I think I've been reading him e mean far longer than I probablyshould have on. I would just really I...

...have so many questions. I'd like Teoh.I was really close. I had a one connection through the book festivalthat had emailed him. And so, Stephen, if you're listening, I would really,really like to interview you. I love him on Twitter. Yeah, he's funny. He'sI mean, he's just to someone that I would like just like toe have over fordinner. He is definitely one of my If you could have four people at dinnertype questions, he would be one of them. That's awesome. Well, I can't. I, forone, can't wait to come on. It sounds wonderful. If that was a realinvitation, I'm in. Well, of course, I just I mean, I said right before thestarted, I just finished the book of lost names that I just adored it. Socongratulations. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. And Mary KayAndrews, I begged, I beg beg the newcomer. I can't my summer ever sincenow that I can get these books in advanced, I always would have booksthat come that my summer begins with, You know, Mary Kay Andrews book, butnow I get them way earlier. So now my my new year begins with the new. We'llmake sure you got really great so I can't wait or it's always summer withMary Kay Andrews, right? Your bumper sticker quotes somewhere. Eso Tim TheNantucket Book Festival team had to think on their feet this year to bringthe festival fully online for the first time ever. Can you tell us a little bitabout the challenges and successes involved with that? And what's itlooking like for the festival in 2021? Yes, So Michael Schulder, who was onour committee, he just kind of jumped at the chance. I think he kind ofalways wanted to make the Nantucket Book Festival something a little bitmore global. Same thing as me. It was kind of a thing that we had talkedabout in meetings before. But just when you're planning a four day festival,it's hard toe. Find the time and resource is to start something likethis. So it was always something. He has a podcast called wave maker podcastand he interviews a bunch of different people, and he just kind of took withit and ran in. The quality of these videos are just fantastic, and he is agreat interviewer as well. We had all our writers lined up because we didn'treally cancel until, you know, March. So everything. Everyone was set and wehad such a stellar lineup. But like Samantha Power and Mitchell Jackson andSarah Broom. And so he just virtually interviewed them. It's a it's a reallyexperienced toe. Watch it. It's not just two people talking. It's really ah,videos, pictures of them and pictures of what they're writing about. So itzits so great. We have started meetings about 2021. I feel that, you know,everyone is kind of zoomed out. I feel so we're trying to stay innovative, andnot that we won't have those conversations virtual conversationsbecause I think they're important for the people that would never be able tomake it. And I know we don't wanna seem tone deaf and just start planning ahead,hoping that everything is going to be...

...back to normal in June of 2021. So youknow. I think everyone says they need 2020 the end. But I think January 1stthere's gonna be a light switch that everything is. So we're working on it.I think you know, I think there's ways to do events safely in a Nantucket wascrowded this summer, but I think we you know, it's such a great community ofpeople that really do care Onda taking the safety precautions that we need to.So I'm hoping for some some in person thing, But don't you know, I don't knowfor sure, And I think like everyone in the world were just kind of We're justkind of guessing, But do you think the virtual element is gonna change how youdo the festival beyond 2021 in the future, like when the world is back tonormal? Do you see there being a virtual components down the line nowthat we've kind of gotten good at it? Yeah, definitely. I think what was sonice is that Michael got to revisit with authors from the last. So thiswould have 2021 will be our 10th Nantucket Book Festival. And so herevisited with people that we've had five years ago and maybe four years ago,and it kind of, you know, we think of all those authors. I mean, even theauthors from 2012, when it started. It is part of the n b A family. So torevisit with them and see what they're working on might not have happenedagain because we have such a small roster of authors each summer. But itwas really great Thio and even, you know, I am interview Louise, Penny andJodi and people that have been at the festival and Thio revisit with them wasreally great. So I hope that we continue that because I think it's waysto pull in everybody from the years right now Let's get back to the ReeseWitherspoon Book Club application. Eso If you haven't seen it, you need Thio.And we don't understand how you weren't hired from that. Tell us about how youdid that and what became of your application. I mean, can we We canstill see it, right? Yeah, Well, I don't think I was supposed to post it.One of the rules was your supposed Thio. You know, you're supposed to It'ssupposed to be there to post. But I think when the pandemic happened sheannounced that in January and then everything happened And there isn't one.So there is still hope Waken mount up. We can mount a campaign for you e waste.I'm just expecting everyone to be listening. Stephen King ReeseWitherspoon Reason If you're listening, I'm still available. I am ready to beyour resident library in I you know, I was like, You know what? I would justbe so perfect for this job. You and so I was so excited to do it, and I It wasa minute and a half video that you have to dio and you're there was all thesethings you had to include dance moves because she loved to dance, and sheloves toe laugh. And so I have everything in there. I have bend insnaps from Legally blonde stepping book...

...thing. I have a scene that I have abook in a bar and she and I have someone saying you have a book in a barlike, uh, sweet home Alabama. Get so have all these things that pull ittogether. And I was really proud of you and no matter what, even if she didn'tsee it or if they never have it, I was happy that I got I posted it on myinstagram at Tim talks books. And so I am glad that you at least enjoyed it.We're going to start a Twitter hashtag hire Tim, please do Please do. I willfollow that page. I am so in. This is like a new mission. Mary Mary Kay.Something else for us to dio. Got it, Tim Eso Tim Nantucket boasts severalvery high profile hometown authors, as you just mentioned, and Nantucket BookPartners has gotten very creative with the way they market special exclusiveauthors for people like Nathaniel Philbrick, Nancy There and ElinHilderbrand. Can you tell us a little bit about the signed books and giftsets and the impact they've had on the bookstores? So I think in the age ofselling books online right now, you know, you kind of have to createsomething that doesn't exist out there because it's hard to compete with. Thatmust not be named E. I understand it, too. At the same time, I mean, somepeople can't it is more shipping to support a you know, indie bookstore,especially one on an island. But at the same time, I think what we really tryto do is create some things that you can't get anywhere else. And our signgift sets are truly Ellen, Nancy and that come in and I'm sitting there withthe book and they can personalize it, you know, to you know, my mom, Martha.And then, you know, you sign all the things. Um, it's wrapped up in tissuepaper. It has we included, like an exclusive bookmark. Like for Nathaniel.There's a whale bookmark for Nancy. It's Ah, custom one with her. For Ellen.It's a custom I'd rather be living in. Elin Hilderbrand novel Bookmark, andit's wrapped up in tissue paper. And I mean it truly is something that, like alot of time, is spent on packing it up and where you know Amazon. You're justa number. You're really not a number. I mean, I'm really refreshing the page ofthe orders, and I see the order come in and I say, OK, get that or, you know,it's not just me, but the whole staff at Mitchell's and book work. It is justtruly something that is priceless you won't be able to get, and there won'tbe anything like it if it's personalized and it is truly yours,they make a great gift. I think even if you've read the book to have that onyour shelf, you'll always have that. You know, I love I usedto, you know, mygrandparent's books always had when you gave a gift they would always right in.And I would feel like it would always say to Keith, You know, from And Ithink that that's something that you know just can stay in history withinthe family Thio know that your your parents, your grandparent's reallyenjoyed reading this book. So I feel...

...like they're so they're they're reallyspecial. And I think they're the thing that I was really excited to feature toyou. Well, you know, Tim, you guys are on an island on Nantucket, so I wantedto ask you Do you have a desert island? Read the one book you would take withyou. Just you and your husband and a book. Wow, That is so tough. I think it would haveto be the hearts. Invisible Furies by John Boyne. Uh huh. I think that's myfavorite book of the last decade. I'm also going to say I mean, East of Edenby John Steinbeck has always been my favorite classic s O that would be upthere. I don't know if I could just have one. I don't know. Well, it CzarIsland, So I'm going to give you those. Both of those were making the roles.I'm gonna I'm gonna give you two e like this island already. Tim, what do youwant to tell our listeners as we head into the holiday shopping season, Ithink I mean, I kind of mentioned it, but just that, you know, most of theday today I was at Mitchell's and the orders would come through and Sue and Iand Christina were going through each one of ones that we had toe, you know,we're small business where, you know, we're very small and but yet wereoperating with the loyalty of customers or people that, you know, Ellen and notNancy have been so gracious with their time and with their being able to putthat out there to support us and that it's just something that I don't knowof. Our doors would be open without things like that. So I think it's justthat yes, shipping might be a bit more. And you, you know, everyone is used toprime shipping that is free. And then you see a priority mail. That's, youknow, $678 and you kind of you're shocked because it's really not a thinganymore. You know, I think just know that the appreciation in the and thelove that goes into wrapping up your books, you're getting your books readyor the signing of them or the inclusion of a bookmark is something that isreally important. And I think you see shopping, local and supporting local somuch. But then just really realizing it, that it's like, Oh, wow, there areprobably only two or three people that are really doing all of this and andgetting it together and that it's ah, more of an experience to get your bookthan just you know, it thrown in with some laundry detergent. Yeah, there arereally I love that there are really people on the other end of thatexperience and they're choosing books, the recommending books, they'rewrapping them and we have a conversation mean they'll be We'll see.Uh, we'll see a book order for, you know, the book of Lost Names or BeachTown and they we'll talk about it like if we you know, if we've read that, itwill be like, Oh, I have to read that or I've saw that somewhere. So, likethe staff talks about it sometimes if there's people in the store, then youknow that. So it's like a whole lots going on with your order that youprobably don't even really realize. I...

...love that because it's kind of thatidea that even if we're not able to go into your bookstore right now, we'restill in a way going into your bookstore. I mean, we're still havingthat interaction, even if we don't know it, which I think is kind of abeautiful thought. Yeah, definitely. Well, Tim, it's been so wonderful tohave you with us, and I hope we're all sitting down face to face to have thesediscussions really soon to talk about books, to talk about community and totalk about our favorite laugh out loud stories with you. Thank you so much forbeing with us today. Oh, thank you. It was my pleasure. And I reallyappreciate you having me on. Thank you so much and happy holidays and staysafe. You too way welcome. Laura Taylor Flores, thebookstore and programming director for Oxford Exchange in Tampa, Florida rightacross the bay from my hometown and Christians, Oxford Exchange began witha mission to create something that would cultivate community andconversation designed in the spirit of human engagement. Oxford exchanges,ultimately a gathering place housing a collection of ideas and experiencesunder one roof Justice, the Name Exchange suggest they drew inspirationfrom the historic clubs, libraries and shops of London whose charm in historyseemed to spark spontaneous social interaction. Oxford exchanged openedits doors in 2012 with the restaurant, champagne bar, housewares event, space,shared workspace and a full line of branded merchandise. It's so much morethan just a bookstore. Welcome, Laura. Hi. How are you today? Good. We're sothrilled to talk to you first. Tell us. You know, we all give lip service toindie bookstores and we love them. And if you're listening to this. You knowwe love them. But first, tell us why indie bookstores air so important notjust to the authors but the community of readers and writers. Well, you know,for me, one of my first memories with the bookstore was sitting on the floorwith stacks of books and just, you know, Piled piling them all up and thinkingabout, you know, kind of the all the possibilities and all the secrets andall the stories. And I feel like today we still need that. You know, when youwalk into a bookstore, you're walking really into the bookshelf of thecommunity. So it really reflects upon, you know, the thoughts, what people aretalking about. You know, the customers I know for us is an independentbookstore. We restock the books that sell, so you know, if if we knowthere's an author or a style, it's it's really tailored to our customers andwhat our customers love and and what they buy and just conversation. I can'tthink of the various things and just the variety of everything that wetalked about with our customers, and I love it. It's always kind of funky, soI love that idea of it being a the bookshelf of the community that was sowell put. And such a reminder of why...

...independent stores in every communityor so important. So Laura, on the Oxford exchange website, you have agreat quote from Einstein. If at first an idea isn't absurd, there is no hopefor it. Does that mean something in relation to your store? Oh, absolutely.Oxford Exchange is owned by a sister and brother, Blake Casper and AlisonAdams. And, you know, they had the idea. They wanted a bookstore and then ah,restaurant and they saw the space. And then it became an event space and acommerce club. And they wanted it to look a little bit like, otherworldly,like Europe. And, you know, everyone was like, Well, that's crazy. That'sabsurd. Nobody's gonna want to go to that, you know, bookstores, air dying.You're never going to do well with that. And you know, the shops. And it justseemed a little too kind of vague and bizarre. Nobody could imagine what itwould be like, and people thought they were crazy. So that was probably abouttwo years in the building and now, 10 years later and, you know, it's justit's fantastic. So I think there are other places like it. It's it's reallygot a great heartbeat. You know, we really it feels like a busy trainstation or hotel lobby. And it just has. It was this crazy idea that peoplereally didn't think it was going to work, and it really did. So you know, Ilove old anything old, especially historic buildings. And I know Oxfordexchange his house in a historic building. How what was the buildingbefore? And how does that history play into the space that you all haveplanned and experience you offer there? Well, you know, Tampa has University ofTampa's right across the street, and there was the old Tampa Hotel, sothere's a rumor and historians sometimes debated, but we're prettysure that it used to be an old horse stable, uh, for the hotel across thestreet. So in the design, there are different things that were really keptfrom the old building. There was basically the arcade, which was wherethe two streets were joined throughout the building. So we really do have along hallways that joins Kennedy and Grand, which you could walk down. Andit's also sloped, which is how they used to make horse stables, because thewater would be able to drain down. So it still has that slope in a way, andin effect, when you walk into the bookstore, it's like you're really kindof walking down into a ramp, and it's just kind of slowly pushing you down tothe restaurant in the coffee and ultimately, the champagne bar. Kristen,I cannot wait to visit that store once. Cove it is over, I'm telling you, it'slike the best place in the universe. I'm not even Yeah. Um, s O you justmentioned all of these places within the walls of Oxford Exchange. Um, Andas you pointed out, the champagne bar being my favorite. And you know, ofcourse, why not? Eso? Oxford Exchange has such a variety of offerings underone roof. Do you think that being so...

...diversified has helped you to surviveduring the pandemic? Yes. Yeah, 100%. You know, for us in that terrible time,when everything was closing, the restaurant was able to operate as it togo facility. So to give you an idea. With all the the businesses together,we have over 100 people that work here. And so when we had to close down and wewere basically, you know, down to just, you know, the manager. So there wereabout eight or nine of us in the building and, you know, being able toeven have you know that to go side of it, where we could have people in thebuilding to do that really helped, you know, we were still able Thio keep somepeople on the payroll for that. And in addition, you know, we were able tosuggest to people that okay, if you're picking up your to go pick up a book,you know, or pick up a candle from the shop or, you know, and so on the on theto go menu, the food menu, we would have it would be a chicken burger and,you know, a book, you know, maybe untamed or something. So we would takeone or two books every day, and we have the John Grisham or something or theEric Larson. I can't remember the books that were landing at that time, but itwas really hard because anyone who released a book during the pandemic Imean they were just really they didn't get the do you know, poppingcircumstance. But we know it is so hard. So so it did help. It really helps toehave diversity and different things in the building, just like everything it'sIt's just, you know, it's great having that. So now if the name of the OxfordExchange sounds familiar to our friends and fiction family, that's becausethey're the store that is currently offering Are Amazing Friends andfiction for subscription club. Laura. Would you tell us about the partnershipand how it was conceived and how it How's it going so far? Oh, wow, it'sfantastic. It's so fun. Um, it's just the whole idea that Kristen hadcontacted me and she wrote this really long email and you could tell shewrites books. You know, long emails s so well thought out it was perfect andeverything was there. And I think my answer was probably five wordsabsolutely awesome. Um, then, you know, just like love it. Yes, we could dothat. So it was just, you know, it's such a great idea. We have, ah, FirstEdition Club, and I think we've just always, Sometimes it works, andsometimes it doesn't. But to be able to see five authors get together andreally kind of, you know, take control of it and, you know, put it in a waythat is easy for their fans to get and to read and to really join along in thejourney throughout the year as the new books come and to be able to partnerwith the bookstores. It's such a great, different way about it. So because wedio there's been another author...

...partnership that we've been luckytohave this year, and, um, that's really the one good thing that's comeout of Cove. It is the reality that or the realization that we can partnerwith authors directly and together we can, you know, get the books to thereaders, you know, So it's great. We're definitely happy to do it. I'm a littleafraid of the fulfillment that's gonna happen in 2021 but right now I feellike it's an If you build it, they will come type of things. So once we haveall this business and then we're going to figure out how are we going tofulfill all of these folks? Yeah. For those of you who don't know the friendsand fiction First subscription services, all five of us, we all have bookscoming out. Pretty much rapid fire. Starting in March of 2021 with PattyHenry and then Christie Woodson. Harvey is April and I'm May and Mary. AliceMunro is May. And then bringing up the rear is Christian. We do. You get amonth off, right? Yeah. Christian will be out in July, Right. You subscribe?Yeah. If you belong to that club, subscribe. Do we hope everybody will?You'll get those books and you'll get a tote. If you subscribe pretty soonbefore Christmas, you'll get one of these really cool ornaments thatKristen did you design on Kristen? Oh, I mean, if if by design you mean sleptour logo on the bottom and then type some words under it, Yes, that's what.Anyway, that's what that ISS and you know. And of course, all the books aresigned. First edition. So it's It's a really unique thing to get. And it'sfunny, Laura, that you mentioned receiving the email for me because I'msure. You know, I did my best to sound cool, calm and collected. But we werelike, we hope she likes us. We hope she wants to do this, you know? And thenyou said the email back and we were all together, and I think I ran into thekitchen. It was like she wants to talk to us. She wants to talk to us. So itwas, You know, we were as excited as you were, and we're just thrilled to bedoing this partnership with you. I think there might have been champagneinvolved too, Right? Right. Mary Kay. Yes, there was definitely. We were alltogether on my beach house on Tybee Island. Um, so, Laura, thanks so muchfor joining us today. But I've got one last question. And I just asked ourother bookseller Tim from Nantucket Books. What is your desert island read?You know, the one book that if you were shipwrecked, you would have to havewith you. Okay, First of all, this is a very unfair question, because it's justnot fair toe. Have to pick one book. Well, we did let Tim have to So you canhave. I'll let you have a second one. Well, actually, what I thought about isthat being a bookseller, I've heard and I know it's something among a lot ofbooksellers that every bookstore needs at least one copy of infinite jest. Uh,but I have never read it, so I because it's just so daunting. And it's so hugeon there's all of these, you know,...

...additions and subtext and everything.So I think if I had to choose one, it would definitely be infinite justbecause it would last me a while. And so, you know, I was rescued. That is afantastic answer. I could deliberate. So yeah, that's a great way. I would,certainly. Anyway, Laura, thank you for joining us today and everybody elseKeep your ears out for MAWR. Fascinating, bookish interviews comingup from the friends and Fiction podcast. I'm Mary Kay Andrews and I'm ChristineHarmel, and this has been the friends and fiction podcast. Join us again.Soon you've been listening to the friendsand Fiction podcast. Be sure to subscribe to the friends and fictionpodcast wherever you listen, and if you're enjoying it, leave a Review. Youcan find the friends and fiction authors at www dot friends and fictiondot com, as well as on the Facebook group Page. Friends and fiction comeback soon. Okay? There are still lots of books writing tips, interviews,publishing news and bookstores to chat about goodbye.

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